• Home
  • Events
  • First Draft of the News–News Releases
  • Rules/ contact info
  • Senator Coons joins colleagues in introducing repeal of Defense of Marriage Act

DelawarePolitics.net

Where public policy meets common sense

Feed on
Posts
Comments
« A Glimpse into Our Future?
They Didn’t Heed the Warning NOW You Must »

You have to pass the bill to know what’s in it

Mar 25th, 2010 by David Anderson

UPDATE: I have been waiting for my progressive friends to debunk this. As I said in the post, when you pass a bill which is constantly changing you get these types of concerns. I wanted to prove a point that the process breeds suspicion. You didn’t take my challenge so I will. A class 2 medical device is a non-implantable device such as a powered wheel chair or even a pregnancy test kit. So the answer is it is not an accurate report. There is plenty of reason for privacy advocates to have real concerns. There are over 500 references to data in the bill. Electronic Medical Records are pushed (page 1158 and even for home care p. 761). The government is now going to monitor data (page 164 lines 11 through 16) data on individuals inside and outside of the state exchanges. If the government is going to do this right, it needs data. It will have to get extensive data on individuals to fight fraud. The Secretary of Health and Human Services is given broad power to implement “any measure or procedure” that “The Secretary deems appropriate to reduce fraud and abuse in the administration”…. in the exchanges. In other words, they really could try almost anything that wouldn’t violate the Constitution or law on its face. That is something serious to think about.

Maybe mandating coverage for kids is not in the bill, but providing micro chip implants…. I guess they are really revamping S-CHIP.

Here is a taste of the Current News article. I haven’t verified it yet so I will give this one to my progressive friends to research. Either way this type of concern happens when you have ever changing bills.

Lets first say this, I am an Obama supporter 100%.

There’s a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won’t like.

The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.” Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary”

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see…

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a “implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”

This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are “born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage” will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children’s Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent.

Posted in Healthcare

8 Responses to “You have to pass the bill to know what’s in it”

  1. on 24 Mar 2010 at 14:181Mithras

    This is a lie. Point to the section of the law or shut up.

  2. on 25 Mar 2010 at 08:052meatball

    There is no public option. Why would someone object to this anyway? I can think of no safer place to store your most personal information.

  3. on 25 Mar 2010 at 10:323Chris Slavens

    I would like to see more information on this from a reliable source. Unless I am mistaken, this was posted on Current, but originated at abovetopsecret.com, a forum dedicated to conspiracy theories. The microchipping story has not even showed up on infowars.com, which is usually quick to report any kind of conspiracy theory with a factual basis.

  4. on 25 Mar 2010 at 11:124David Anderson

    Let me be clear. It is not happening. The point of the post was that the ever changing secretive nature of the bill leads to a lot of concerns that you wouldn’t have otherwise. Though oddly enough the carte blanche grant of power to the Secretary does not make this out of the question. Is it happening, no. The person either misinterpreted or is being misled on the definition of medical devices and page 1004 has nothing to do with that subject.

    You don’t need to go anywhere else Chris. LOL

  5. on 25 Mar 2010 at 13:225meatball

    Again, what exactly is so sinister about microchipping? Anyone?

  6. on 25 Mar 2010 at 13:586Timothy Pancoast

    Microchipping isn’t sinister in and of itself. No more than guns are. Just as guns don’t kill people, people kill people; microchips don’t track people, people track people. At least until Skynet comes online, lol, but I digress.

    Mircochiping people to track data about surgical implants and health records can be harmless on its own. However, it does set up a convenient framework that can be exploited easily enough if people of harmfull intent chose to do so.

  7. on 25 Mar 2010 at 14:297pandora

    The title of this post raises a question… did I miss the Republican amendment calling for the repeal of the Death Panels?

  8. on 26 Mar 2010 at 05:288Tweets that mention DelawarePolitics.net - Delaware's Center-Right Voice -- Topsy.com

    [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by DelawarePolitics.net. DelawarePolitics.net said: You have to pass the bill to know what’s in it: Maybe mandating coverage for kids is not in the bill, but providin… http://bit.ly/a5K5tr [...]

  • OCInkjet.com 120x600 banner,
image is updated by season.
  • Follow Delpolitics.net on Twitter!

  • What You’re Saying…

    • Geezer on Rick Santorum
    • Colonial Republican on Rick Santorum
    • Colonial Republican on Rick Santorum
    • Dave on John Sigler’s Chairman’s Corner
    • Rick on Delawareans Losing Confidence In the Economy
    • Rick on The State Ruling the Church
    • Rick on Rick Santorum
    • Rick on John Sigler’s Chairman’s Corner
    • Rick on The Week in Politics
    • Jon Moseley on Rick Santorum
    • Jon Moseley on Rick Santorum
    • anon on Rick Santorum
    • questionfordavid on The Week in Politics
    • Colonial Republican on Rick Santorum
    • Frank Knotts on The State Ruling the Church
  • RSS Breaking News

    • Chile on alert as prison rats spread hantavirus February 6, 2012
      The Associated Press The Associated Press SANTIAGO, Chile Chile has declared a public health alert with a hantavirus outbreak killing three people and infecting 10 others. Health Minister Jaime Manalich blames wildfires in the southern Bio Bio and Araucania regions for driving rats from their normal habitat into... washingtonexaminer.com/news […]
    • NC judges don't dismiss map lawsuits entirely February 6, 2012
      GARY D. ROBERTSON Associated Press RALEIGH, N.C. A three-judge panel says a pair of lawsuits challenging North Carolina's new boundaries for congressional and legislative seats can move forward. The Superior Court judges on Monday declined to dismiss more than half of the claims offered by... washingtonexaminer.com/news […]
    • ENMU sets enrollment record, passes 5,000 mark February 6, 2012
      The Associated Press The Associated Press PORTALES, N.M. Eastern New Mexico University says its enrollment for a spring semester has broken a school record. The Portales university announced Monday that student enrollment hit 5,084 students, surpassing the 5,000 mark for the first time in ENMU's... washingtonexaminer.com/news […]
    • Judge dismisses lawsuits in Holyoke church dispute February 6, 2012
      The Associated Press The Associated Press HOLYOKE, Mass. The future of a Holyoke church where parishioners have been holding a 24-hour vigil to protest its closure by the Diocese of Springfield is now in the hands of the Vatican. A state judge on Friday dismissed a trespassing lawsuit brought... washingtonexaminer.com/news […]
    • Colorado lawmakers to consider state amphibian February 6, 2012
      The Associated Press The Associated Press DENVER Colorado lawmakers are considering a bill that would make the western tiger salamander the official state amphibian. The measure was drafted by students, who have enlisted the support of Denver Democrat Rep. Angela Williams to carry the measure. The... washingtonexaminer.com/news […]
    • Activism

      • 9/12 Delaware Patriots
      • Angel Clark Show
      • Central Delaware Chamber of Commerce
      • Conservative Hispanics
      • David Anderson for Council
      • Delaware Family Policy Council
      • Delaware Federation of College Republicans
      • Delaware Federation of Republican Women
      • Delaware Right to Life
      • Delaware Smart Girl Politics
      • Delmarva Black Chamber of Commerce
      • Founders' Values
      • Kent County Republican Minority Outreach
      • Kent County Republicans
      • New Castle County Republicans
      • Pro-life Democrats of Delaware
      • Republican Party of Delaware
      • Sussex Republicans
    • Local Blogs

      • Allan Loudell
      • Blue Hen Conservative
      • By Fayth
      • Civil But Disobedient
      • Coastal Sussex
      • Colossus of Rhodey
      • Common Sense Political Thought
      • CR Institute Blog
      • Daily Borg
      • Dave Burris
      • DE Conservative
      • Delaware Curmudgeon
      • Delaware Kook
      • Delaware Reddit
      • Delaware Republican
      • Delaware Watch
      • Delaware Way
      • Delmarva Dealings
      • Founders Values
      • Frank Calio
      • Green Delaware
      • Kavips
      • Kilroy
      • Maryland Politics Today
      • Merit Bound Alley
      • Mourning Constitution
      • Politically Frank
      • Resolute Determination
      • Slavins Says
      • Stop overTaxing Our People
      • Sussex County Angel
      • That’s Elbert
      • The Delaware Patriot
      • The Underground Conservative
      • Tommywonk
    • National Sites

      • Americans For Fair Taxation
      • Americans for Tax Reform
      • bestnewspolitics
      • Club For Growth
      • Doug Wead
      • Edspresso
      • Foster Friess
      • Freedom Works
      • GetLiberty
      • Governing Blog
      • Greg Mankiw
      • Heritage Policy Blog
      • Hotline On Call
      • Let them fight or bring them home
      • Politico
      • Rasmussen
      • Real Clear Politics
      • Red State
      • Statescape
      • The Corner
      • The Economic Advisor
      • The Right Side of the News
      • Wall St. Journal Opinions
    • News

      • Angel Clark Show
      • Delaware Grapevine
      • Delaware On-Line
      • Doverpost
      • Middletown Transcript
      • Rasmussen
      • Seaford Star
      • Sussex Countian
      • The Delaware Patriot
      • WDEL
      • WGMD
    • Resources

      • BlogNews
      • Business Management ABC’s
      • Central Delaware Chamber of Commerce
      • Delaware Beach Events Calendar
      • Delaware Family Policy Council
      • Delaware Initiative and Referendum
      • Delaware NAACP
      • Delaware Right to Life
      • Delaware Spends
      • Delaware State Chamber of Commerce
      • Grant Foundation
      • Investing World Today
      • Quality Natural Health Products
      • Steve Quayle
      • The Economic Advisor
      • Virtual Health
  • Archives

  • Share SwissOutpost.com
  • Topics

    • 'Prevailing' Wage (2)
    • Abortion (56)
    • ACORN (2)
    • Action File (65)
    • Afghanistan (31)
    • Alternative Fuel (12)
    • Americanism (46)
    • Antiwar Left (11)
    • Armed Forces (24)
    • Arts (1)
    • Bachmann (2)
    • Biden (27)
    • Bill Lee (5)
    • Bluewater Wind (6)
    • Books (4)
    • Budget (62)
    • Bush (2)
    • Business (15)
    • Carney (30)
    • Cathcart (8)
    • Change (30)
    • Charlie Copeland (5)
    • Charters (2)
    • China (1)
    • Chris Coons (20)
    • Christine O'Donnell (74)
    • civil liberties (36)
    • Civility (11)
    • Clinton (1)
    • CoastalSussex (1)
    • Colin Bonini (17)
    • Comment Rescue (25)
    • common sense (1)
    • Competition (2)
    • Conservatism (73)
    • corruption (20)
    • Courts (14)
    • Crime (45)
    • Culture (30)
    • DE General Assembly (39)
    • Defense (14)
    • Deficit (66)
    • Delaware Blogs (21)
    • Delaware Conservative Coalition (2)
    • Delaware Democrats (68)
    • Delaware GOP (115)
    • Delaware Sheriff (1)
    • Development (8)
    • DNREC (7)
    • DP.net (2)
    • DTR (1)
    • Earmarks (9)
    • Earmarxists (5)
    • Economics (83)
    • economy (163)
      • bailouts (14)
      • Jobs (67)
    • Education (64)
    • Election 2008 – Delaware (52)
    • Election 2008-President (55)
    • Election 2010 (442)
      • Election 2009 (70)
      • Fred Cullis (5)
      • Glen Urquhart (71)
      • Kevin Wade (20)
      • Michelle Rollins (25)
      • Rose Izzo (11)
      • Scott Spencer (2)
    • Election 2012 (83)
      • Mtich Crane (2)
      • Tom Kovach (1)
    • Election 2012 President (40)
    • Election Finance Reports (1)
    • Employment (16)
    • Energy (47)
    • Entertainment (2)
    • Entitlements (10)
    • Environment (84)
    • Ethics (24)
    • Fair Tax (6)
    • Family (13)
      • Parental Rights (7)
    • First Amendment (2)
    • Foreign Policy (27)
    • Glenn Beck (7)
    • Global Control (2)
    • Global Warming (27)
    • Greg Lavelle (5)
    • Growth (5)
    • Guest Opinion (21)
    • Guest Posts (38)
    • Hate Crimes (2)
    • Hate Speech (5)
    • Healthcare (160)
    • Herman Cain (6)
    • History (24)
    • House Rules (2)
    • Identity Theft (4)
    • immigration (31)
    • Infrastructure (7)
    • International (36)
    • Interviews (1)
    • Iran (4)
    • Iraq (13)
    • Israel (9)
    • It's our money (7)
    • Jack Markell (55)
    • Jim Van Houten (1)
    • Joanne Christian (1)
    • Joe Biden (7)
    • Karen Weldin Stewart (5)
    • Kauffman (1)
    • Land Use (15)
    • laughs (14)
    • Liberal Hypocrisy (18)
    • Liberal Media (32)
    • Liberalism (39)
    • Liberty (26)
    • Litigation (5)
    • local government (42)
      • City of Dover (15)
      • City of Dover (1)
    • Local Media (6)
    • Looney Left (45)
    • Manufactured Homes (1)
    • Marco Rubio (3)
    • Markell (16)
    • Marriage (3)
    • McCain (13)
    • Me (7)
    • Merry Christmas (5)
    • Michele Bachmann (3)
    • Mike Castle (57)
    • Mike Huckabee (10)
    • Military (22)
    • Minner Failures (7)
    • Mitt Romney (3)
    • National Dems (91)
    • National GOP (79)
      • Michael Steele (9)
      • Newt Gingrich (5)
    • National Security (26)
      • War ON TERROR (7)
    • New Castle County Council (17)
    • No Politics (16)
    • NRG (2)
    • Obama (144)
      • Wacko Appointees (6)
    • Oil (13)
    • Open Government (22)
    • Planned Parenthood (1)
    • Polls (55)
    • Press Releases (13)
    • Property Rights (7)
    • Quotes (8)
    • Radio (6)
    • Reagan (2)
    • Reform (29)
    • Regional Politics (72)
    • Regulation (37)
    • Religion (33)
    • Republican Party (35)
    • Revolutionary Reform (18)
    • Rick Perry (3)
    • Right to Bear Arms (8)
    • Ron Paul (8)
    • Rules of the Forum (1)
    • same sex marriage (28)
    • Sarah Palin (26)
    • Satire (19)
    • Schwartzkopf (6)
    • Second Amendment (4)
    • Snark-o-rama (3)
    • Social Conservatives (23)
    • Socialism (3)
    • Sock Puppeteering (3)
    • Spending (22)
    • Sports (12)
    • State Senate (10)
    • Stuff (1770)
    • Supreme Court (13)
    • Sussex GOP (16)
    • Taxes (105)
      • Tea Parties (30)
      • Your Money at Work (1)
    • The Bubble (2)
    • The Disgrace (5)
    • The Singapore Miracle (2)
    • Tom Carper (24)
    • Tom Coburn (6)
    • Tom Wagner (4)
    • Tort Law (1)
    • Tort Reform (4)
    • Transparency (12)
    • Tributes (49)
    • Tyler Nixon (1)
    • Tyranny (3)
    • Uncategorized (65)
    • unemployment (8)
    • Unions (17)
    • United Nations (9)
    • Universal Healthcare (3)
    • US Congress (9)
    • US History (3)
    • USA For Sale (3)
    • war (10)
    • Waste (14)
    • Weather (4)
    • Welfare State (3)
    • Wind Power (6)
    • Work Force Housing (5)
  • FreeTaxUSA.com
  • Microsoft Store Microsoft Store
  • Microsoft Store Microsoft Store
  • The Karaoke Channel Online Membership Community
  • 120 x 240 Logo Banner
  • Think you're not at risk? Unfortunately, you are. Identity Theft Shield click here!
  • Tips on Home and Style banner 120x600
  • Select-A-Ticket
  • https://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Contribute.Home&r=31357 HuckPac.com
  • textbookx.com (Akademos, Inc.)
  • Archives

    • February 2012
    • January 2012
    • December 2011
    • November 2011
    • October 2011
    • September 2011
    • August 2011
    • July 2011
    • June 2011
    • May 2011
    • April 2011
    • March 2011
    • February 2011
    • January 2011
    • December 2010
    • November 2010
    • October 2010
    • September 2010
    • August 2010
    • July 2010
    • June 2010
    • May 2010
    • April 2010
    • March 2010
    • February 2010
    • January 2010
    • December 2009
    • November 2009
    • October 2009
    • September 2009
    • August 2009
    • July 2009
    • June 2009
    • May 2009
    • April 2009
    • March 2009
    • February 2009
    • January 2009
    • December 2008
    • November 2008
    • October 2008
    • September 2008
    • August 2008
    • July 2008
    • June 2008
    • May 2008
    • April 2008
    • March 2008
    • February 2008

DelawarePolitics.net © 2012 All Rights Reserved.

WordPress Themes | Web Hosting Bluebook