You have to pass the bill to know what’s in it
Mar 25th, 2010 by David Anderson
UPDATE: I have been waiting for my progressive friends to debunk this. As I said in the post, when you pass a bill which is constantly changing you get these types of concerns. I wanted to prove a point that the process breeds suspicion. You didn’t take my challenge so I will. A class 2 medical device is a non-implantable device such as a powered wheel chair or even a pregnancy test kit. So the answer is it is not an accurate report. There is plenty of reason for privacy advocates to have real concerns. There are over 500 references to data in the bill. Electronic Medical Records are pushed (page 1158 and even for home care p. 761). The government is now going to monitor data (page 164 lines 11 through 16) data on individuals inside and outside of the state exchanges. If the government is going to do this right, it needs data. It will have to get extensive data on individuals to fight fraud. The Secretary of Health and Human Services is given broad power to implement “any measure or procedure” that “The Secretary deems appropriate to reduce fraud and abuse in the administration”…. in the exchanges. In other words, they really could try almost anything that wouldn’t violate the Constitution or law on its face. That is something serious to think about.
Maybe mandating coverage for kids is not in the bill, but providing micro chip implants…. I guess they are really revamping S-CHIP.
Here is a taste of the Current News article. I haven’t verified it yet so I will give this one to my progressive friends to research. Either way this type of concern happens when you have ever changing bills.
Lets first say this, I am an Obama supporter 100%.
There’s a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won’t like.
The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.” Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1, section B:
14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary”What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see…
Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a “implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are “born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage” will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children’s Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent.










This is a lie. Point to the section of the law or shut up.
There is no public option. Why would someone object to this anyway? I can think of no safer place to store your most personal information.
I would like to see more information on this from a reliable source. Unless I am mistaken, this was posted on Current, but originated at abovetopsecret.com, a forum dedicated to conspiracy theories. The microchipping story has not even showed up on infowars.com, which is usually quick to report any kind of conspiracy theory with a factual basis.
Let me be clear. It is not happening. The point of the post was that the ever changing secretive nature of the bill leads to a lot of concerns that you wouldn’t have otherwise. Though oddly enough the carte blanche grant of power to the Secretary does not make this out of the question. Is it happening, no. The person either misinterpreted or is being misled on the definition of medical devices and page 1004 has nothing to do with that subject.
You don’t need to go anywhere else Chris. LOL
Again, what exactly is so sinister about microchipping? Anyone?
Microchipping isn’t sinister in and of itself. No more than guns are. Just as guns don’t kill people, people kill people; microchips don’t track people, people track people. At least until Skynet comes online, lol, but I digress.
Mircochiping people to track data about surgical implants and health records can be harmless on its own. However, it does set up a convenient framework that can be exploited easily enough if people of harmfull intent chose to do so.
The title of this post raises a question… did I miss the Republican amendment calling for the repeal of the Death Panels?
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