Comments on: Willingly Blind http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/ Where public policy meets common sense Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:55:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Rick http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21706 Rick Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:36:34 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21706 <i>There are not many radicals in the U. S. Where do they train?</i> Where did the 911 pilots 'train?' The United States. Also, how much 'training' do you need to strap on a bomb and set it off in a subway? There are not many radicals in the U. S. Where do they train?

Where did the 911 pilots ‘train?’ The United States. Also, how much ‘training’ do you need to strap on a bomb and set it off in a subway?

]]> By: David Anderson http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21653 David Anderson Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:13:58 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21653 There are not many radicals in the U. S. Where do they train? Where is the strategic operations headquaters? They put them in the mountians in the stan region for a reason. That reason is so they can be ignored while they train, build the bombs, and gather real and counterfiet money to launch operations around the globe unmolested. We have to tie them down then defeat them as a viable organized force where they are. If we do not then it would be like trying to clear a house of roachs while protecting the nests from being sprayed. We need to kill the roaches at the nests. Afghanistan is one of the nests. If it is not controlled, nuke armed Pakistan risks becoming one. If that happens, all of the border security that we can muster will not matter. They will only need to be successful once with a balloon sending parts to a cell which collects them across the border then assembles and explodes a dirty bomb or far worse. We need to understand that we are not just in a war, but a generational struggle for the dignity and liberty of humanity. There are not many radicals in the U. S. Where do they train? Where is the strategic operations headquaters? They put them in the mountians in the stan region for a reason. That reason is so they can be ignored while they train, build the bombs, and gather real and counterfiet money to launch operations around the globe unmolested. We have to tie them down then defeat them as a viable organized force where they are. If we do not then it would be like trying to clear a house of roachs while protecting the nests from being sprayed.

We need to kill the roaches at the nests. Afghanistan is one of the nests. If it is not controlled, nuke armed Pakistan risks becoming one. If that happens, all of the border security that we can muster will not matter. They will only need to be successful once with a balloon sending parts to a cell which collects them across the border then assembles and explodes a dirty bomb or far worse.

We need to understand that we are not just in a war, but a generational struggle for the dignity and liberty of humanity.

]]> By: Rick http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21640 Rick Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:01:09 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21640 There are over 1-billion muslims in the world. I don't know how many of them are 'radical,' but if we were able to put Afghanistan into orbit, there'd still be potential terrorists in Egypt, Indonesia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia..need I go on? We need to quit wasting our time in Afghanistan, and focus on protecting our own nation. My guess is that a terrorist in a fishing boat could bring a bomb right up the Delaware River, undetected; or, through the hinterlands of the Maine/Quebec border; or Mexico. It's time to wake-up. There are over 1-billion muslims in the world. I don’t know how many of them are ‘radical,’ but if we were able to put Afghanistan into orbit, there’d still be potential terrorists in Egypt, Indonesia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia..need I go on?

We need to quit wasting our time in Afghanistan, and focus on protecting our own nation. My guess is that a terrorist in a fishing boat could bring a bomb right up the Delaware River, undetected; or, through the hinterlands of the Maine/Quebec border; or Mexico. It’s time to wake-up.

]]> By: David Anderson http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21625 David Anderson Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:34:37 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21625 For once, I agree with Noman. Afghanistan is a very complicated country. It is a feudal federal republic. We cannot act as if Karzai is the only power. We have to do what we did in Iraq, which is work with the tribal leaders and the central government. It is about our national security and the peace of the world. Precipitous withdraw will end<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana" rel="nofollow"> the Pax Americana</a> and plunge the world into eventual disorder as terror cells grow and cause instability in at least 70 nations. The picture of the next 20 years will be one of terrorism, civil war, crackdowns, and oppression. First to go after Afghanistan will be Yemen, then Pakistan, then Somalia and Sudan will be ramped up as bases. There will be increased instability in Africa and the Middle East. Europe will be flooded with refugees. Among these mostly decent people will be terror cells. Europe will be in flames in 10 years. The Philippines will suffer terror attacks. Indonesia will be under assault. Some Island in that chain will become a base of instability in Asia. Eventually, they will become powerful enough to infiltrate us from all sides. We will have to fight for our lives and freedom at far greater costs than a few hundred brave casualties and 30 billion dollars. President Obama is right. We have to win this one. We have to knock out this operation. Even stalemating it for 10 years is a victory because it stops it from the above and eventually defeats it. Withdraw allows it to claim victory which will flood it with recruits. The one thing keeping some from joining is that many believe it is a lost cause against a determined U. S. In retrospect, some believe they challenged us too early. They gained a lot of ground until 9/11. If they had waited, they could have had several gulf states on the ropes, Egypt, Algeria, and caused instability in Indonesia and the Philippines. If they cause us to give up, it will show that they were right. Americans are too weak and will give up at a few loses. They will grow impatient in a protracted fight. I am not in agreement. I am in this for victory. Defeating Communism took 45 years of determination. Defeating radical Islam will take at least 20. That is just the way it is. The longer we dither, the longer and more costly it will be. For once, I agree with Noman. Afghanistan is a very complicated country. It is a feudal federal republic. We cannot act as if Karzai is the only power. We have to do what we did in Iraq, which is work with the tribal leaders and the central government. It is about our national security and the peace of the world. Precipitous withdraw will end the Pax Americana and plunge the world into eventual disorder as terror cells grow and cause instability in at least 70 nations. The picture of the next 20 years will be one of terrorism, civil war, crackdowns, and oppression. First to go after Afghanistan will be Yemen, then Pakistan, then Somalia and Sudan will be ramped up as bases. There will be increased instability in Africa and the Middle East. Europe will be flooded with refugees. Among these mostly decent people will be terror cells. Europe will be in flames in 10 years. The Philippines will suffer terror attacks. Indonesia will be under assault. Some Island in that chain will become a base of instability in Asia. Eventually, they will become powerful enough to infiltrate us from all sides.

We will have to fight for our lives and freedom at far greater costs than a few hundred brave casualties and 30 billion dollars. President Obama is right. We have to win this one. We have to knock out this operation. Even stalemating it for 10 years is a victory because it stops it from the above and eventually defeats it. Withdraw allows it to claim victory which will flood it with recruits. The one thing keeping some from joining is that many believe it is a lost cause against a determined U. S.

In retrospect, some believe they challenged us too early. They gained a lot of ground until 9/11. If they had waited, they could have had several gulf states on the ropes, Egypt, Algeria, and caused instability in Indonesia and the Philippines. If they cause us to give up, it will show that they were right. Americans are too weak and will give up at a few loses. They will grow impatient in a protracted fight. I am not in agreement. I am in this for victory.

Defeating Communism took 45 years of determination. Defeating radical Islam will take at least 20. That is just the way it is. The longer we dither, the longer and more costly it will be.

]]> By: noman http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21624 noman Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:20:07 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21624 <i>I am reluctant to commit more troops to a country devoid of any reality. </i> You should be reluctant to commit any troops anywhere. If people like yourself had been more reluctant to commit troops to Iraq we might be successfully out of Afghanistan by now. <i>I know the Taliban if back in power will allow Al Qaeda to operate with total freedom but I don’t see Afghanistan as a worthwhile effort.</i> You are very confused. I am reluctant to commit more troops to a country devoid of any reality.

You should be reluctant to commit any troops anywhere. If people like yourself had been more reluctant to commit troops to Iraq we might be successfully out of Afghanistan by now.

I know the Taliban if back in power will allow Al Qaeda to operate with total freedom but I don’t see Afghanistan as a worthwhile effort.

You are very confused.

]]> By: Mike Protack http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21623 Mike Protack Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:30:33 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21623 I am reluctant to commit more troops to a country devoid of any reality. Karzai is the Mayor of Kabul and that is about it. I want to hear the plan to see how we keep Al Qaeda in check but not spend endless money and valuable lives against the Taliban. I know the Taliban if back in power will allow Al Qaeda to operate with total freedom but I don't see Afghanistan as a worthwhile effort. Mike Protack I am reluctant to commit more troops to a country devoid of any reality. Karzai is the Mayor of Kabul and that is about it. I want to hear the plan to see how we keep Al Qaeda in check but not spend endless money and valuable lives against the Taliban.
I know the Taliban if back in power will allow Al Qaeda to operate with total freedom but I don’t see Afghanistan as a worthwhile effort.
Mike Protack

]]> By: David Anderson http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21615 David Anderson Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:19:58 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21615 We don't need the world. We need to follow up on our own resolve. The rest of the world is welcome, but the situation got worse because we farmed it out to NATO and others. The U. S. can't depend upon the world for its own security nor does it have to. We don’t need the world. We need to follow up on our own resolve. The rest of the world is welcome, but the situation got worse because we farmed it out to NATO and others. The U. S. can’t depend upon the world for its own security nor does it have to.

]]> By: Nancy Willing http://www.delawarepolitics.net/willingly-blind/comment-page-1/#comment-21614 Nancy Willing Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:43 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=7598#comment-21614 I am pretty sure that we are going to have to try to stabilize the Afghan Taliban with an eye to keeping Pakistan Taliban under control. Key words: Pakistan's nuclear weapons and who gets access to them. The situation is a mess over there, no doubt, but your analysis misses the big picture. We do need to bring the world to this problem in shared responsibility just as we are doing with Iran in lining up China and Russia to that end. That was quite a trick considering the relationships between those nations and Iran. Iran is pissed that we have united the world against their secret nuke program and have boasted today that they are moving forward anyway. But at least we will meet that threat as a world united. America needs to do this with Afghanistan and Pakistan. I am pretty sure that we are going to have to try to stabilize the Afghan Taliban with an eye to keeping Pakistan Taliban under control. Key words: Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and who gets access to them.

The situation is a mess over there, no doubt, but your analysis misses the big picture.

We do need to bring the world to this problem in shared responsibility just as we are doing with Iran in lining up China and Russia to that end. That was quite a trick considering the relationships between those nations and Iran.

Iran is pissed that we have united the world against their secret nuke program and have boasted today that they are moving forward anyway. But at least we will meet that threat as a world united.

America needs to do this with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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