The Divide Between Republicans and Democrats

80% of Republicans think it is very important for the U.S. to be number one in the world militarily while a majority of Democrats (51%) do not think it is “not that important” . 47% of Democrats are satisfied with the direction of the country while only 9% of Republicans are. President Obama had an 86% approval from Democrats and 10% from Republicans which ties the 4th year of the GWB Presidency for the most polarized 4th year on record. Democrats are more likely to worry about gun violence than Republicans and less likely to name the economy and jobs as their top concern. 93% of Republicans see big business profits as good for the economy as compared to only 55% of Democrats. 70% of Republicans see same sex marriage as invalid and 73% of Democrats see it as valid. 72% of Republicans are Pro-life while only 38% of Democrats are. There is not only a divide between the ideas of Republicans and Democrats in Washington, it seems as if that divide comes honestly and reflects the members of the two parties. The partisan divide seems not to be a Washington fiction. I know that I agree with the majority of Republicans on everyone of the positions and the majority of Democrats on none. I am a Republican because I believe America is worth defending and must be second to none. Abortion is anathema. The traditional family is the basis of civilization and not subject to social experimentation by government. Profit is good. Debt in excess is bad. Jobs matter and you cannot be anti-employer and pro-jobs.  I believe that common sense and liberty are the keys to an America that works.

31 thoughts on “The Divide Between Republicans and Democrats”

  1. Freedom, liberty and opportunity should be what is important to most Americans. Too many search for the government to provide these things when it is impossible for the government to do so.

    Here is a great verse on the differences:
    If a Republican doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.

    If a Democrat doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

    If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.

    If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

    If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.

    If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

    If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.

    If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.

    If a Republican doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.

    A Democrat demands that those they don’t like be shut down.

    If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.

    A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

    If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.

    If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that the rest of us pay for his.

    If a Republican reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.

    A Democrat will delete it because he’s “offended”.

  2. The Dow Jones hit an all time record high today, for those keeping track of the advance of socialism in America.

  3. “Jobs matter and you cannot be anti-employer and pro-jobs. “

    Jobs don’t really matter to anti-labor Republicans.

  4. The Dow Jones hit an all time record high today, for those keeping track of the advance of socialism in America.

    1. It’s a suckers market. Be ready to pull the trigger.
    2. There’s no correlation between the market and the economy- the numbers since BO took office stink; little or no growth, high unemployment. That’s reality.
    3. The weakening dollar helps exports- I think we’re headed to Euro $1.40-ish.
    4. Where else can you put money and make anything?

    I couldn’t care less if the United States is #1.

    That’s because you’re a loser.

    The schism is cultural; hence, it cannot be resolved politically.

  5. The Dow Jones hit an all time record high today, for those keeping track of the advance of socialism in America.

    Another pump and dump* by the too big to fail manipulating those that are rapidly becoming too small to succeed?

    I don’t know if you’ve noticed this due but many “communists” and socialists have been extraordinarily wealthy historically. Given that centralized power (usually financed by global banksters) draws scum and psychopaths like flies to a corpse, no one should be surprised that it turns out that even “socialists” closer to the top usually aren’t redistributing wealth to the poor in reality.

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    “Mission Accomplished” – With CNBC now lost for countdown-able targets (though 20,000 is so close), we leave it to none other than Jim Cramer, quoting Stanley Druckenmiller, to sum up where we stand (oh and the following list of remarkable then-and-now macro, micro, and market variables), namely that “we all know it’s going to end badly, but in the meantime we can make some money” – ZH translation: “just make sure to sell ahead of everyone else.”

    GDP Growth: Then +2.5%; Now +1.6%
    Regular Gas Price: Then $2.75; Now $3.73
    Americans Unemployed (in Labor Force): Then 6.7 million; Now 13.2 million
    Americans On Food Stamps: Then 26.9 million; Now 47.69 million
    Size of Fed’s Balance Sheet: Then $0.89 trillion; Now $3.01 trillion
    US Debt as a Percentage of GDP: Then ~38%; Now 74.2%
    US Deficit (LTM): Then $97 billion; Now $975.6 billion
    Total US Debt Oustanding: Then $9.008 trillion; Now $16.43 trillion Zerohedge

    Kind of ironic that the “socialists” of Iceland* actually stood up to the scam, etc…. but I guess Americans enjoy their entertainer in chief too much. He’s almost like a real leader! So I guess we’ll almost have real bridges and roads, a real natural gas distribution system, real electric cars and so on and so forth… any day now.

    I vote against having any more shrimp running on treadmills… entertaining as it is. Actually, I suspect that if you compared what was spent on that to a reality show budget we probably got our collective entertainment and educational value out of that “investment” in the end.

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    ….while the drama has been rewritten internationally as a sovereign debt crisis, the Icelandic government has felt the need to bring criminal charges against its ex-prime minister.
    His indictment is revealing, in Iceland they haven’t succeeded in blaming the victims of the crisis: the unemployed, migrants, single parents, asylum seekers. Those responsible for the crisis now have to answer for their recklessness. The banks have been brought to heel, the government reprimanded.
    As Europe lurches from crisis to chaos Iceland shows that austerity is the wrong medicine – it’s the wrong doctor giving out the wrong prescription.
    And even if you haven’t seen it reported…that’s what’s happened to Iceland. internationalsocialist.org

  6. For those that missed their portion of entertainment from financing shrimp on a treadmill: Shrimp Running on a Treadmill

    Fun times.

    Someone should have formed a shell company to pitch shrimp running on treadmills as an energy source to save the planet, there might be some liberals who would buy into that if Obama was selling it.

  7. Nitpicker on March 5, 2013 at 10:39 said: “The Dow Jones hit an all time record high today, for those keeping track of the advance of socialism in America.”

    The Federal Reserve is inflating the money supply, which inflates the stock market like a balloon. When the Fed pumps money into economy it first hits the financial markets. So new, fake money becomes available to buy stocks. Financial institutions with funny money from the Fed to throw around bid up stocks. Meanwhile, the economy is half dead.

    This is actually a sign of desperation as the Fed is trying to breathe life into the struggling economy.

  8. “There’s no correlation between the market and the economy- the numbers since BO took office stink; little or no growth, high unemployment. That’s reality.”

    Apparently there is no correlation between profits and the economy, either. Record corporate profits — still strong even if you deduct for inflation — have not translated into a stronger recovery.

  9. Record corporate profits — still strong even if you deduct for inflation — have not translated into a stronger recovery.

    This is because nobody is hiring or expanding- they are saving profits for Omabacare, ever-increasing Omabaregulation, and higher Omabataxes.

    With all of the unknowns on the horizon, would you hire and expand, or would you put money aside, wait and watch? When Omaba leaves, real and significant growth will occur. Until then, flatline.

  10. This is actually a sign of desperation as the Fed is trying to breathe life into the struggling economy.

    They should just give their paper ponzi to the people at this point.

    If they did then their stimulus or “wealth effect” might trickle down into strip joints, booze or maybe Justin Bieber concerts depending on the demographics and region…. but so what? At least, whatever it was, it would be local people creating things that they valued for themselves instead of some global bankster looting the economies of others to buy another private island of dubious sovereignty for themselves.

    Side note, I don’t believe that local people would necessarily be stupid about things. In many respects, they’re not as stupid as the crackheads on Wallstreet with respect to “investing” in prostitution, etc.

    Wall Street BailOut Money for Prostitution I’m surprised that story showed up in the corporate media… despite the best efforts of corrupt “authorities” in NYC. But sex sells, as they say… so there’s always a bull market for that type of bull.

  11. Actually, the fact that story showed up on ABC and the madam didn’t wind up dead indicates that any “investigative journalism” involved was probably still ultimately under control.

    Maybe sex sells in the mainstream media… except when you might wind up dead for reporting on something. There’s always that.

  12. “With all of the unknowns on the horizon, would you hire and expand, or would you put money aside, wait and watch? When Omaba leaves, real and significant growth will occur. Until then, flatline.”

    It has nothing to do with “unknowns on the horizon,” as there has never been a time in human history when there weren’t unknowns on the horizon. There is a lack of aggregate demand, as you might learn by reading business publications, very few of which are published by liberals.

    As Warren Buffett has noted, he’s never heard of a business that refused to meet demand because the resulting profits would be taxed.

    Businesses hire employees when they can meet demand no other way.

  13. Also, 1.5 percent growth is just as close to the usual target of 3 percent as it is to 0.

  14. “When Omaba leaves, real and significant growth will occur. Until then, flatline.’

    Not as long as the citizens keep electing liberal socialist democrats, because they give the citizens a warm and fuzzy feeling.
    Not as long as the GOP doesn’t bring a candidate to the table who can appeal to both sides.
    Not as long as the RINO’s are stuck on stupid preferring to focus on labeling GOP members they don’t agree with.
    Not as long as GOP members stuck on stupid refuse to compromise on anything, refuse to concentrate on the core values of the GOP party.

    Just look at the last 20 years in Delaware politics it’s painfully obvious how stuck on stupid the GOP membership is.

  15. “This is because nobody is hiring or expanding- they are saving profits”

    Oh, okay. But Jon said it was because the money supply is increasing, and somehow the inflationary effect is only being shown in stock prices. So saving profits would not be a good idea.

    You two can sort this out on your own. But I guess Jon will save the day with a new theory that shows how inflation can be limited to one thing in the economy, without affecting anything else.

  16. The divide between Republicans and Democrats is more than real. This divide in political ideology is not a new one in America.
    During the presidency of John Adams, Jefferson was diametrically opposed to John Adams and Alexander Hamilton’s ideology. Adams and Hamilton were Fedralists and monarchists and believed that Great Britain had a much better for of government than our new Republic. The Fedralists were in favor of having a king instead of a president.
    Jefferson and his friend James Madison, on the other hand were staunch Republicans and constitutionalists. They knew the growing Republic and constitution was what America needed to grow into the vision that Jefferson had when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.
    John Adams would not allow his presidency to be bad-mouth by anybody and passed the “Alien and Sedition Act” and started arresting and jailing writers and congressmen on the Republican side. The Federalists were defeated by Jefferson, who became the third president. Jefferson repealed the “Alien and Sedition Act” and pardoned everyone who had been convicted and fined and compensated them their fines.
    Relations and tempers were so bad that Aaron Burr who was constantly being denigrated by Alexander Hamilton, challenged Hamilton to a duel and killed him. We now have a much similar rift between the two major parties.

    We now have nothing in common with the Democrats, except that we all live in America. We share no political ideology and cannot work together to legislate anything in Washington.

  17. Geezer on March 5, 2013 at 14:33 said: “Apparently there is no correlation between profits and the economy, either. Record corporate profits — still strong even if you deduct for inflation — have not translated into a stronger recovery.”

    There is no automatic universal reason for any of these things. It just happens at the current moment that Qualitative Easing on steroids is inflating the money supply.

    Point is when you see X in the economy it doesn’t automatically mean Y until you investigate.

    Geezer writes: “There is a lack of aggregate demand, as you might learn by reading business publications, very few of which are published by liberals.”

    Of course. But one reason is that consumers — as well as business — are scared and pull back. And much of aggregate demand is business spending, as well.

    Geezer writes: “It has nothing to do with “unknowns on the horizon,” as there has never been a time in human history when there weren’t unknowns on the horizon. ”

    It is obvoius that the level of risk is different at different times.

    If I run a business and I know that the government is changing the regulatory environment, and rapidly, I am going to stop and wait to see what the new rules are going to be.

    Geezer, suppose you want to buy a small office building as an investment, but the government has a pending proposal to change the zoning in that district.

    You’d be a fool to shell out your money until you wait and see what the outcome is first.

  18. 80% of Republicans think……while a majority of Democrats (51%) do not think

    47% of Democrats are satisfied ….. while only 9% of Republicans are.

    President Obama had an 86% approval from Democrats and 10% from Republicans…

    93% of Republicans see….. as compared to only 55% of Democrats.

    70% of Republicans see …. and 73% of Democrats see …..

    Don,

    All this says is that there are differences of opinions between the proles.

    In what the political D and R elites in DC think and more importantly, do, there is no difference.

    For example, in Congress there is consistent bi-partisan collusion on funding bullshit wars, bankster bailouts, indefinite jailing of Americans without charge or trial, warrant-less wiretaps ….etc …etc. If your Congressman is a fascist, it really does not matter if he is a D or R.

  19. Geezer, I know they are fudging the numbers, but I did not make a big deal out of the contraction because it was .1% and now the growth is the same. That is zero either way. It is no growth.

    Under Republicans, how many millions of jobs were created, what was the average unemployment rate? Did we not have double and triple the growth?

  20. Nitpicker,
    You are not in the real world, with all due respect. Have you not gone shopping. People cannot afford to pay more in groceries so now a half gallon of Ice Cream is 48oz. There are 2000 plus price increases in the average grocery store a week and sizes are shrinking on thousands of products. Gasoline, fuel oil, and all sorts of commodities from copper to gold to corn, to milk to pig bellies are up dramatically. Health care and tuition are up. Anything with relatively inelastic demand that can go up, is going up. You have a stock market bubble.

    As for arguing that inflation does not go into one sector, have we not just went through the housing bubble, the tech bubble, and the great depression had the real estate and stock bubbles.

    What creates these bubbles and commodity inflation? The weakening of the dollar or devaluation of the currency. The last effect not the first is CPI. When it gets there in double digits, it is too late. You have to crash the economy in order to fix it. It is not too late, but we are getting there.

  21. Delacrat, good points, I would agree with you on all of them, that is why I did not vote for Mr. Castle or support our congressional delegation. They have forgotten the Constitution. That is not an abstract, it protects you and I. Right now, we are being plundered.

  22. Inflation can occur from a number of causes. Therefore, it is not always the same.

    However, when the Federal Reserve is injecting more money into the system (they don’t print money, they do create it electronically, “virtual money”), it first hits the stock market through the banks. The banks interact with the Fed. The banks invest money in the stock market.

    Also, stock prices are very sensitive — inversely — to interest rates. When Fed action lowers the interest rate or keeps it low, stock prices go up.

    Also, stock traders are very sensitive to signals about what they think the Fed is going to do. So when news comes out that the Fed is easing, everyone rushes to buy stock and ride up the rise in the stock market. Even if the traders don’t think the economy will irmprove, they will want to ride the wave up in stock prices if they expect that everyone else expects the economy to improve.

    Stock prices are driven by expectations about what everyone else expects to happen, NOT driven by any sense of reality. So if news makes traders think that most investors will view that as good news, traders rush to buy on the news, possibly selling at a profit (they hope) in a few hours or a few days.

    Therefore, it is a common situation whenthe stock market is soaring because money is being injected into the system by the Fed. A soaring stock market does not necessarily mean anything about the health of the economy. If the economy is horrible and Fed action will make it slightly better, the stock market will rise.

    Now, WHY is inflation being seen only in the stock market?

    It normally takes 18 to 24 months from the time the Fed does anything until the time inflation starts to show up.

    However, what we are seeing is a sign that the economy is in really horrible condition.

    If the emergency room keeps giving a patient injections of blood, and they keep needing more and they are still low on blood, THEY ARE BLEEDING profusely somewhere. There could be internal bleeding. They are in danger of bleeding to death in spite of geting infusions of new blood.

    When the Federal Reserve keeps pouring new money into the system and we don’t see inflation elsewhere in the economy, that means the economy is in really atrocious condition. Money is pouring in from the Federal Reserve and it is having no effect at stimulating the economy.

  23. A couple of things.
    First, most unions are not pro worker in any way what so ever. Most are corrupt and inept and serve the leadership not the members.

    Second, for the economic dumb asses who come here with zero knowledge,

    AD = C + I + G + (X-M)
    C = consumption is consumer spending
    I = Investment
    G=Government spending
    NX =Net exports
    So how is aggregate demand created in the liberal idiotic world? Government.
    These dummies seem to think the government can control the economy devoid of human choices and there is some sort of “multiplier” in government spending. Deficit spending is stimulative in nature but has a cost-DEBT. Look at the largest growing part of the budget- Debt which we will never repay.

    These same dummies should examine Says Law a bit and realize the government can hurt the economy very easily and can help it very little. Markets clear and equalize on their own.

  24. Borrowing costs are close to zero and have been for some time.

    Your econ 101 lesson is quite amusing. Let us know when you pass 102.

  25. Borrowing costs in terms of costs of the transactions are not zero but they are not the problem.

    The money borrowed comes from somewhere (and has to be paid back).

    It isn’t the transaction costs which are relevant.

    It’s the fact that the money borrowed is sucked OUT of the economy in a variety of forms before being injected back in again. Net benefit: ZERO.

    Furthermore, money that would have been guided by sound decision-making by the private sector is misidrected by political deicsions into stupid things like how long can a shrimp run on a treadmill.

    So the money put into the economy by the governmnet is LESS valuable than the money that the economy sucked OUT of the economy by the government: NET LOSS.

  26. Ahh Geezer, [redacted], you never like it when you are corrected and pointed out as the [redacted] you have always been and always will be. When you have an IQ above house paint I can give Econ 102 and above. However, [redacted] like you are so tragic and sad so let me know when you are ready to learn.

  27. It has nothing to do with “unknowns on the horizon,” as there has never been a time in human history when there weren’t unknowns on the horizon. …Geezer

    Obviously, but the ‘unknowns’ I’m talking about are those concerning regulation and taxes. And the uneasiness is exacerbated under an administration fixated on ‘revenue generation,’ which isn’t usually the case under a business-friendly Republican administration.

    There is a lack of aggregate demand, as you might learn by reading business publications, very few of which are published by liberals.…Geezer

    If there’s no ‘aggregate demand,’ then why are they recording ‘record profits’ (your words)? Maybe you need to re-read your ‘business publications.’

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