Shaun to Jud
Jul 23rd, 2010 by Tennessee Walker
We have followed here the decision by Bill Colley to get rid of Shaun Fink from his Monday afternoon segment. Shaun has written an email to Jud Bennett explaining his position. At the end of the letter is a link to the podcast of Monday’s show that was the cause of Shaun’s dismissal. I have listened to the podcast entirely 3 times and I am amazed that Colley would take the kind of offense that would warrant this type of move. Sean makes certain comments that I believe are very valid. Sean praises Pete du Pont for his bringing the State of Delaware back from the brink of bankruptcy and ushering in 20 years of prosperity. Sean pointed out that Pete could not be identified as a Social Conservative. (One could also not identify Pete as a Social Conservative. It has never been addressed.) Now I guess someone could take exception to some of Shaun’s comments. A true professional would have tried to get some clarifications from Shaun and challenged him on the issues.
I think this would have made for interesting listening.
At any rate Shaun Fink is articulate enough to state his case. What follows is Shaun’s statement. At the end is Monday’s Podcast. I welcome all to listen although it is about 40 minutes long. All can make up their own minds.
Shaun Fink to Jud Bennett:
Good Morning Judson,
I wanted to let you know that I will no longer be the Monday afternoon guest on the Bill Colley program on WGMD 92.7fm. Bill has asked me not to come in anymore. His first communication to me on Tuesday morning after this past Monday’s show indicated that I am not “rattling” cages and have no teeth. Upon my further inquiry, a different picture emerged.
It seems that my Monday afternoon on-air challenge to the self-appointed leaders of the “new” conservative movement in Delaware to actually lead with vision and purpose, instead of displaying all the back-biting, finger pointing and other self-destructive behavior that I have been witnessing has really struck a nerve. Bill has called me a sellout and, judging by the rest of my communications with him since Monday, I have apparently failed the newly established Litmus Test for entrance into the New Conservative Party.
Perhaps it was my use of the term “pathetic” when referencing their antics that was the final straw, I am not sure. What I do know is that I absolutely stand by my statement. Conservatism is more than a mere opposition to the established system of government. Conservatism is an ideal; it is a set of well established values and proven policies. Conservatism is a way of life. It is not an exercise in polemic demonstrations. When does the yelling end and the vision emerge? I have yet to see any purpose or leadership coming out of Delaware’s new conservative movement. I have seen a lot of things from the so-called leaders, most of which are not appropriate to share in polite company. But there is a lack of true leadership, and that void is being filled with venom and animosity. This house they are building will not long stand.
To be clear, I am not speaking of the good, conservative minded people who fill the seats at the rallies and are watching the American dream fade before their eyes with grave concern. I am speaking directly of those who have taken advantage of that fear and anxiety in order to advance their own agendas. I am not speaking of the grass-roots organizations and thousands of Delawareans who are fed up with the status quo. I am speaking of those who have squandered the past year focused on building up their own names at the costly expense of not advancing a substantial purpose or vision.
For Conservatism to flourish, we must teach the values. For Conservatism to triumph, we must challenge the status quo with ideas and solutions as opposed to spit and vinegar. For Conservatism to take root and become the long-standing legacy of a people determined to prosper, we must be willing to include the thoughts, ideas and opposing viewpoints of our fellow Delawareans and Americans; knowing that a healthy debate in the arena of ideas only serves to strengthen our position.
I learned a long time ago that the best way to lose an argument is to tell the other person that they are wrong. That course of action closes ears, hearts and minds. In order to win a debate, one must be willing to teach, encourage and challenge their opponent to qualify their position with determination. Only when the virtues of limited government, personal liberty and American Exceptionalism are explained, taught and understood will we see Delaware turn the tide. We must show the other side that, though they have admirable intentions, their methods are not financially sustainable.
And I believe that, if we challenge our friends who disagree to prove their point with facts and evidence, they will not be successful. Then some (not all) will come to understand the conservative point-of-view. What is the alternative? The current actions being taken by these self-appointed conservative leaders are ineffective, at best, and utterly destructive, at worst. They want to draw a line in the sand, and that is okay. But, what they do is dig a deep, un-navigable chasm that will ultimately lead to a permanent division in the soul of this state and nation. Perhaps that is their intention, it is not mine. I for one will not follow that course. I choose to challenge with ideas and solutions, not empty words and emotions designed to stir anger.
In the end, I suppose they truly believe in what they are doing. I do understand the anger and frustration in the hearts of those who are listening to them. My fondest desire is that the people would ask these self-appointed leaders of the new conservative movement to stop explaining the problem (we all know about that), and start providing solutions. I have the privilege of meeting individuals in every part of our wonderful state. I can say without equivocation that people know there is a problem with the current course of our state and national government. Every day brings new evidence. I can also say that there is a huge need for viable alternatives. That is what I and all of my colleagues at the Caesar Rodney Institute are working so hard to provide. The time for hand wringing is over, let’s set out to solve this riddle.
Well, Judson, I will conclude my long-winded diatribe. I apologize for going on like that. I want to say in closing that I walk away from my two years with Bill a better person for the experience and truly appreciate the friendship he extended to me by allowing me to be a part of what he is trying to do. It seems that our relationship has become a victim of that growing chasm. No regrets, no heartaches, just the closing of another chapter in my life. What I have come to learn, though, is that every time a door closes the Good Lord opens another. So, I will simply look for the next opportunity to deliver the message of hope and economic prosperity for all Delawareans.
Take care my friend,
Shaun
P.S. I have attached the link to the podcast of Monday’s program in case you did not have a chance to listen. Thanks, again.
Well done Shaun, well done. The graciousness of my party once again trumps the narrow, prickly, uncivil relatives we have to have at the family reunion. We hope to raise our children better, and will, by pointing out these destructive examples.
I agree with fighting blue hen, the Democrats love to see the infighting. There is nothing we can do about human nature. I see this even in chairities, vet organizations, schools, and churches where everyone is supposed to be working for a higher good. Why would politics be held to a higher standard than them?
I am not going to blow this out of proportion. That happens.
Ahhh.
I can’t say enough how I admire Shaun, his flair with words, his somewhat moderate, even-tempered, thoughtful approach to all matters political. Not to mention he is a genuinely very nice person with an equally nice wife and cute children. I see Shaun as a future Delaware GOP candidate.
Goodness knows I have issues with Bill Colley and for God’s sakes, is this man’s solution to everything to throw people off the air who don’t agree with him? He is a bit of a dictator of the radio waves, isn’t he?
Shaun, go with me here….you speak of the disappointed mob sitting in the stands and tired of the same-old, same-old. Well you put it prettier than that but we get the point. I consider myself one of those people. I also consider myself a well-spoken and thoughtful conservative, hardly the sort all the anonymous posters on this board love to hate. In fact, I’d argue I’m exactly the sort of person the current Republican party should be reaching out to. I trust you all saw this past Sunday’s News Journal article with me, my granddaughter and the Abbotts Mill?
Shaun, who the hell are these people you say are doing nothing but finger-pointing and silly screeching to no decent end? I’ve got a hunch it’s Glen Urquhart and Christine O’Donnell but you never really say that do you?
And here you have decent, nice, well-spoken folks like myself “falling” under their spell when they have nothing but loud talk to offer.
I don’t see it that way. And if Urquhart and/or O’Donnell win this upcoming GOP primary, I expect you’ll do the same thing as I will do should Rollins win. Which would be to support the nominee as voted on by the people, fair and square.
No I will not support Castle because of his vote on Cap and Trade. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again….for all his crossing over the aisle and RINO tendencies, I still voted and actively worked oncit to get him elected. Everyone has a point; the most abused wife in the world has a point. Cap and Trade was my point.
I will NOT vote for the Democrat for that position but I prayed to my God and know that Castle’s vote on Cap and Trade was my last straw. And if Shaun and all the other anonymous posters really don’t believe, on some gutteral level, that Castle’s Cap and Trade vote was really, really bad, and as a consequence these folk don’t have some understanding of how abused we who supported Castle through the years feel, well I’d argue those poor abused people have not yet reached their point.
Like that push poll Urquhart ran that had the genteel amongst us all in a twitter….he points out that Rollins has supported women’s groups who support female candidates who favor abortion. What’s wrong with that? I am glad to know this. Rollins can dispute this but I bet she can’t. He also mentions her inheritance goodness let’s not let the truth get out there.
I’d love to see the GOP take over the House and Senate this coming November. For sure there’s going to be great gains. I’d rather see Coons in there than Castle, yes I would. At least Coons doesn’t lie about who he is.
I suspect Shaun Fink is a sincere person on a mission to push conservative values and I suspect Shaun Fink is trying to keep a firm footing on what is obviously rocky ground. I just want to present my rabble-rousing point of view and ask that you keep folks like me in mind.
I fail to see all the finger-pointing and screeching alluded to in Shaun’s post. The GOP has failed in the past. Mike Castle is one big failure whether the abused want to admit or not just yet.
Not that Mike Castle is a bad man. He’s just a Democrat is all.
Some day Shaun, when you run for an office, recruit me to work for you. I’m very good at it. I’d argue I got more voters for Ruth King than most on the telephone job cause I had those people on the other end of the line laughing and agreeing with all I said.
Just keep a very open mind and know that sometime there really IS a line and even the most genteel of candidates can go over it.
Shaun Fink is a class act and true conservative leader. We may not agree on each and every issue but I am proud to call him a friend. Shaun’s tireless efforts on behalf of Republican candidates and conservative causes put most of the rest of us to shame (myself included). That said, to Shaun’s statement, my only response is a heartfelt “amen.” Shaun, I look forward to seeing where that next door that opens leads- god bless, and good luck.
Pat,
As always, you go right to the heart of the matter. You are uniquely capable of doing that. So, since you bring up candidates, let me ask you a question…is that what the Tea Party is about? What of 9-12 DePats? Campaign for Liberty? Americans for Prosperity? First State Patriots? Others? Is it now about candidates?
You see, I remember the beginning. Do you? Do you remember when this grassroots thing was about the issues? Do you remember when this conservative movement focused on cutting government spending and increasing accountability and individual liberty? In fact, I remember when one of the hallmarks of these wonderful groups was that they would in no way back or support any particular candidate, rather the ideals, virtues and principles of the conservative way of life. Pat, I actually remember when those words were used at the meetings.
This movement ought to be about hopes and dreams, not fear and anger. This movement ought to be about unification, not self-identification. This movement ought to be about the PEOPLE, not some champion who is going to make it all okay again.
What concerns me is this shift I am witnessing from a swelling, grassroots movement focused on working toward a more efficient and accountable government, and thus, a more prosperous Delaware into a political campaign for a few individuals who really have not been particularly effective in communicating a clear, inspirational, and visionary message.
Why are all the hopes and dreams being place with them? You say that I do not name names, and that is true. The reason is there would not be enough space to list all the names of the great and good Delawareans who have given everything they could over the past 18 months to make this a better state/nation in which to live. This movement is about them, not a few politicians. This conservative movement is about Delaware’s future, and America’s future, not the fortunes and pitfalls of those who are vying to its champion.
I love to speak to the different groups. Pat, there is no finer moment for me than to be with such good company, sharing values and virtues. I am personally enriched every time I am blessed to be with any of the groups. But, even if I was running for office, I would never presume to believe that I was their voice. Each and every person who goes to a rally or meeting has a unique and individual voice, ability and perspective on what is going on. That is why what makes them so special. This is about us, all of us.
Naturally, a candidate has to be chosen and a vote taken. I for one will trust those good people to make the right choice…that is the right choice as they see it. Not as I see it, not as you see it, rather as they see it. Do not the unions bear down on their members to support a particular candidate? Are we not to be better than that?
In the end, this is not about a candidate, it is about the American Dream.
Shaun
The 9-12 Delaware Patriots organization is about issues and education still. We do have candidates as guest speakers at most of our meetings in order to help patriots meet them and be able to cast an informed vote, but we work on principles and issues. We aim to keep what happens in our nation as Constitutionally sound as possible.
Now 9-12 Delaware Patriots (people, not the organization) have candidates that they individually prefer and support. They always have and we applaud them in that. The USA needs an informed and active voting citizenry. We firmly believe that backing candidates is the role of citizen patriots, not the role of our organization, but we hope the information they gather from the 9-12 Delaware Patriot’s meetings help the citizens of Delaware fulfill their role with maximum effectiveness.
The mission of Bill Coley’s Radio show is different from the mission of the 9-12 Delaware Patriots. The mission of the Delaware Conservative Coalition is different from the mission of the 9-12 Delaware Patriots. The mission of the Caesar Rodney Institute is different from the mission of the 9-12 Delaware Patriots. The mission of the Delaware Politics Blog is different from the mission of the 9-12 Delaware Patriots. Though there is some overlap with all of those. The people who attend our meetings are welcome to listen to and participate in whatever they like. We just hope they keep it legal and Constitutional.
Part of the problem here is that the agitators like Colley will always draw more attention than those working on policy solutions like Tim. Policy is boring and only the most die-hard can pursue it with a passion. Keep it up, Tim.
Well said, Tim. As it should be.
As much as I agree with Tim’s Post, the reality is that in the public mind all of these things and groups blend together. I don’t think this is right but it is a perception and political reality that should be considered and addressed. Bill Colley rightly or wrongly can be considered the face (or more accurately the voice) of the Delaware Conservative Coalition and the various groups that fall loosely within this umbrella. The inability of Colley to deal with Shaun without laying down the hammer conveys the view that Conservatives toss out people who they disagree with. I have tried to fight this perception for 20 + years. These types of actions set our movement back another 5 to 10 years in the publics’s mind.
What is interesting is Colley engaged in exactly the kind of conduct that Shaun Fink is critical of. Way to make Shaun’s point Bill.
Tim – the 912ers are simply the face for Bill Colley – he is the brains and behind them – they have admitted it -Russ did – see I listen to and watch everybody
YOU YOURSELF – gleefully responded to a post on the 912 site wishing harm from the Gulf Oil Spill on “our animal population in the vicinity of Mexico” NICE TOUCH and rather hateful
I abhor people like you who post in here and seem to be reasonable then post on other sites and spew hatred – just like Colley does – at least when it comes to Colley im honest – all over the place.
you and Colley and other in the 912ers have sunk your 912 ship – all by yourself – do you really believe there is a decent politician out there that will really listen and support you now that the truth is out – you will taint everyone you touch – you have become pariah – and those who have not seen it yet soon will – you have been uncovered for what you truly are = now go away and let the decent conservatives, the decent people -have a chance at doing what is best for our country and our state
and if the site monitors here wish to see the evidence of that – well contact me – you can see my email and I will gladly show you – hatred and threats and what is really lurking underneath that “nice veneer”
This is one fight I am willing to take on all the way – because I have the proof
Does anyone wonder if all of this anger is being directed at Bill Colley because of his support for Glen Urquhart? Remember, it was said after the convention that those who supported Urquhart would be targeted.
Let’s leave Shaun Fink out of the picture for a moment, and consider Jud Bennett. What was the motive behind sending out a blatantly inaccurate email, which suggested that Shaun’s remarks about Dan Short were the reason for him being removed from the guest list? He even went so far as to poke fun at Bill’s weight. That kind of behavior is to be expected from young children, not intelligent adults.
Consider some of the other individuals who have jumped on the “bash Bill” bandwagon. Which candidates do they support? Castle and Rollins, perhaps? Of course they are free to support whoever they like, but could they simply be criticizing Bill because he is supporting antiestablishment candidates, particularly Glen Urquhart?
Perhaps Bill’s decision to cancel Shaun’s future appearances on the show was a poor one, and perhaps not, but let’s keep in mind that we knew Bill would face opposition from the establishment for endorsing Urquhart; he’s facing it now, and he’ll likely face more before September 14.
Hmmmmm….
….problem is…Shaun is a very well-liked individual, both personally and as a political commentator.
But I do see the Urquhart/Rollins connection here and I know that Colley is considered by many to be a bit too far right for some. My problem with Colley, such as it is, is not his politics.
He kicked off a very popular commentator on his show and it’s going to hurt him.
Rick….I heard you on his show this afternoon….heh.
Rick and Bill Colley both wanting secession from the union. Well hell I’m game but I want more details.
Chris, you can try to spin this any way you want. I am opposed to Colley’s actions because I think Shaun Fink is a good guy who is getting a raw deal. You say “Let’s Leave Shaun Fink out of this.” Leaving Shaun Fink out of this is like leaving the iceberg out of the Story of the Titanic.
Give me a break. You are trying to deflect attention from Colley’s actions. Listen to the podcast. Tell us, What problem do you have with what Shaun says and then get back to us. Personally, I would love to hear someone tell me what Shaun said that was so offensive.
As for the comment about Shaun and Danny Short that was in BILL COLLEY’S email to Jud!!
Try and deal with the issues at hand instead of being a lock step follower of the Colley Clan..
Speaking from way up here in New Castle, where The Bill Colley Show is little more than a blast of static (some would say that’s all it is within range of the station), it seems to me we’re wasting an awful lot of electrons on a man who’s broadcast reaches less than one quarter of the population of the state.
Someday, WGMD will tire of the bombast and negative publicity it brings the station. And when Colley is replaced someday (because nearly all radio personalities wear out their welcome and currency over time), the guy who appears on the radio in his place will hopefully be Shaun Fink.
What I am about to say has nothing to do with Shaun, whom I respect greatly.
But really unless I am wrong, Shaun was a guest on the Colley show. He wasn’t a paying sponsor. He was there at the pleasure of the host, Bill Colley. Whatever reason Bill chose to end the relationship, it was his choice to make.
While I can understand Shaun’s feelings, I’m not sure why anyone would think that Bill Colley owes anyone air time.
Shaun was afforded a valuable opportunity to voice his personal oppinion before he went to work for CRI, and then to voice the opinion of CRI afterwords.
If Bill Colley as the host feels that those opinions no longer fit his format, well then he has that right.
Shaun will do well in all of his endeavors, I wouldn’t worry about Shaun.
WGMD is a private busines. If Fink wants air-time, the Caesar Rodney Institute can buy him some. The Monday evening slot was not his, it’s Colley’s.
I might add, who better for a ‘real conservative’ like Fink to whine to than another ‘true conservative,’ Jud Bennett, who, in a hissy-fit, endorsed a communist for the Sussex County Council; a radical statist who won in no small way thanks to Bennett’s endorsement.
Oh, he did it to ‘protect,’ in his words, ‘his county.’
Shaun Fink, Bennett and Castle. Real conservatives. What a joke.
Chris — The boo-hooing that Colley’s being “attacked” falls on deaf ears. Since he dishes it out every day, he should be able to take it in return. All he does is viciously attack people he doesn’t like. It’s his schtick, what he offers instead of intelligence.
Colley still won’t accept my Facebook friend request.
I do disagree with Shaun on his point. I understand the frustration, and we all feel like that sometimes, but it is not true.
Rick,
Please refer to one thing I have said that indicates I feel I was owed the time. If you had taken the time to read my statement, you would have seen just how appreciative I am to Bill for the two years. I truly am. In fact, your direction on this issue is two steps behind, I am afraid. Bill asked me to leave because of what I said about the lack of leadership in the “new” conservative movement. All of my comments since have been directed toward the issue at hand, not having been asked to leave. Understand, I knew the result before I said the words. Still, the words had to be said.
Dave,
I wish it were mere frustration, my friend. I have to say that I would not have uttered the words on air were it a simple airing of my frustrations. I said the words because I believe it is time to have the discussion of where the conservative movement in Delaware is going. As it stands, it is an exclusive club where membership requires approval of a select few, based upon a prescribed system of beliefs. Independent thought is not welcome among the masses. The movement has been co-opted by individuals who are mean-spirited and vengeful. To be perfectly clear, I am still not talking about the actual people who make up the movement. I love them dearly. I still am, however, talking about those who think so much of themselves that they have assumed authority over the rest. My fondest desire remains that the people who constitute the body of this wonderful movement called Conservatism would tell their self-appointed leaders to lead with distinction, honor and class.
“I do disagree with Shaun on his point. I understand the frustration, and we all feel like that sometimes, but it is not true.”
I think on can find an honest disagreement with what Shaun says without banishing him from the airwaves. I don’t agree with 100% of what Shaun says but as my grandfather used to say “If two people agree about absolutely everything, then one of them is unneccessary”
I don’t understand why Colley did not engage Shaun on the point where they disagreed. Bill O’Reilly does this all the time and it is interesting.
Colley’s actions seem to reinforce Shaun’s point that certain so called leaders are assuming authority over the rest.
Alright Shaun if you are going to publicly air your dislike of these “thieves of the conservative movement” than please give us names. We all assume you are talking about Urquhart, Odonnell or both. You’re advising us on what a true conservative is and what our leader should look like. One thing I know is that a true conservative leader would not actively campaign for Mike Castle as I saw your wife doing at the convention. If you want to move up the ranks of the Republican establishment that is fine, but we all know you have to sell your soul to that devil to have a seat at the table. Don’t lecture the rest of us who are sick of both parties lying to our faces and trying to whip us back in line.
“Alright Shaun if you are going to publicly air your dislike of these “thieves of the conservative movement” than please give us names. We all assume you are talking about Urquhart, Odonnell or both. You’re advising us on what a true conservative is and what our leader should look like. One thing I know is that a true conservative leader would not actively campaign for Mike Castle as I saw your wife doing at the convention.”
anti-estab I am not sure how you can claim that you know what we are all assuming. I don’t like to assume things and I have not discussed this with anyone but I thought Shaun Might have been referencing Colley on his leadership comments and thus the Colley reaction. I have not said this in two posts because My speculations would not be useful without the facts. Unlike so many who comment here I don’t have the ability to read minds.
As to your comments about Shaun’s wife. Christine O’Donnell has somehow managed to do something that I have never seen before. Christine has managed to alienate much of the rank and file of the Republican Women’s Clubs. This is unheard of for a female candidate.
Christine had their support in 2008 and some of her biggest fans in 2008 have totally soured on her. Hard Working Republican Women activists who gave time and energy to Christine in 2008 have very few kind words for her. Mrs. Fink is a member of the Sussex Women’s Club.
Shaun Fink’s position at CRI does not allow him to be active in Politics. This is well known. He has to refrain from stating who he favors in any race. This restriction does not apply to his wife.
Now anti-estab if your view is that Mrs. Fink’s choice of who to support should be dictated by Shaun Fink then just come out and say so. Personally, I find this view as being sexist and insulting to women in general.
It appears in the world of anti estab that women should just take the orders of the husband and support whomever the husband supports. That is the only conclusion one can get for condemning Shaun for his wife’s activities.
Thank you anti estab for coming out and saying what I had never thought of. The real problem with some of the so called New Conservatives with Shaun Fink is the activities of his wife.
Rick,
Please refer to one thing I have said that indicates I feel I was owed the time..
Shaun, I never said you did; I said that if you want air-time, buy it. However, the general tone of this thread seems to indict Colley for running his own show as he, the host and employee of WGMD, sees fit.
As a side note, I hope you don’t consider my criticism of your (or, Jud’s) political positions as a personal attack.
With the exception of Castle, the Delaware know-it-all Republican hierarchy’s habit of running ‘moderate’ candidates has been, for the past several election cycles, an abysmal failure. Maybe it’s time to try something new.
“However, the general tone of this thread seems to indict Colley for running his own show as he, the host and employee of WGMD, sees fit.”
No Rick my beef with Colley are based on the reasons Colley himself gave for ending the relationship. He stated the reasons in an email to Jud Bennett. He stated that Shaun’s comments were part of his reasoning. Now just as Colley has every right to have whoever he wants on the show, we have every right to criticisize especially when Colley reveals his rationale in an email that goes out to thousands.
I have yet to hear from anyone who thinks that Shaun’s comments were egregious.
The owners of the Philadelphia Eagles can do whatever they want with that football team. The fans have every right to say what they think when they believe ownership is doing something stupid.
anti-estab,
Well, if you have a problem with Shaun’s wife supporting Castle, I suppose you also have a problem with Glen Urquhart’s wife supporting Castle?
Well, you can’t because she gave to both campaigns. Call her a diplomat. I think spouses should not be campaign fodder.
Excuse me, but the Fink’s helped out O’Donnell’s campaign too.
anti-estab,
You think Shaun ought to name names but you hide behind an alias yourself. At least he is willing to put himself out there where as you have to hide your identity.
What does the identity of anti-estab have to do with anything? I too would like to know who Shaun’s ‘thieves of the conservative movement’ are.
Whoever they are, I wish them success..I’m sick of losing with ‘moderate’ GOP aisle-cross’ers promoted by know-it-all country club party apparatchiks.
I still love ya Rick
Well, you can’t because she gave to both campaigns. Call her a diplomat. I think spouses should not be campaign fodder.
The Finks’ gave to both campaigns, so they should also be
called diplomats by your own words David.
And I agree with you, that spouses should not be campaign fodder, but they are now.
Pat, as per your ‘secession’ question (‘more details’).
The state legislatures of several states simply vote to secede from the union. It’s that simple.
My guess is that secession is inevitable. A swath of states, from Idaho to Texas, including Nebraska and Kansas for sure, and probably most of the Southeast and Alaska.
Why secession? Because the cultural schism is irreconcilable. Let the Northeast, California and the Rust Belt have their windmills, high taxes, gay marriage, political correctness, military weakness, speech codes, mediocre schools, illegal aliens, devastating energy policy, land-grabs, porn in libraries, welfare state, bailouts, electric cars, reverse discrimination, and general Marx-driven political ideology. Let them have it; the rest of us will go our own way- back to the traditional America that brought security, happiness prosperity and freedom to American families for generations.
Does that really sound ‘crazy?’
“Sic Semper Tyrannis!”
Rick,
Two quick observations. First, I think the civil war ended any question of secession a long time ago.
Second, your comment: “With the exception of Castle, the Delaware know-it-all Republican hierarchy’s habit of running ‘moderate’ candidates has been, for the past several election cycles, an abysmal failure. Maybe it’s time to try something new” completely and conveniently overlooks the fact that Christine O’Donnell was the candidate for Senate in 2008 and got thumped. Not only did she get thumped, but she demonstrated her complete inability to run a campaign or raise money.
My guess is that secession is inevitable. A swath of states, from Idaho to Texas, including Nebraska and Kansas for sure, and probably most of the Southeast and Alaska.
So pretty much the top half of this list, right?
Chris Matthews, that very, very fair fella who has tingles in his leg whenever “Obama walks by, tried to take some offhand secession statement made by some Texas politico to great heights.
Course it fell flat but point is the left will take any talk of secession and become wild about it. They may look with disdain at mid-America but they know they’re nothing without at least SOME Americans carrying the baggage.
Although hey I agree with you…let the nut states go off on a tangent and be nutty. They wouldn’t last a year.
TW, Christine did get nominated for senate in 2008 but sheesh, she was running against Biden for God’s sake. Do you really think the Blue Blood GOP in this state nominated for any other reason than she was willing to do it and they knew the pubs didn’t have a chance against Biden? And still she didn’t do half bad.
That run did not prove a damn thing about O’Donnell’s ability to run a campaign. She was heading against the wind as would have been any other candidate. Unless, of course and as Blue Blood Gop’ers in this state tend to do, you think we were all born at night…LAST NIGHT.
You people all busy defending that Castle guy better stop and start doing some serious thinking. This state is not all that happy with Castle, not even the Democrats. I don’t believe there’s even a Wilmington Delawarian that can justify in any way how his recent Cap and Trade vote was beneficial for Delaware. It will be what finally felled him, no thanks to the Blue Blood Republicans in this state who, utterly amazingly and with no conscience whatsoever, NOMINATED HIM AGAIN!
Not only are you espousing running this traitor again, but you want to give him a once in 6 year accountability to the voters and make him one in 100. At least in the House he was only one out of 490 or so and had to report to the voters every couple of years.
The Delaware GOP already looks dumb as the Scozzafozza nuts in NY by nominating this guy but to give him MORE power?
Defending Castle is getting so politically unpopular nowadays you gotta notice how quiet the fans have gotten of late.
Pat
Don’t forget Tim Smith was vying with Christine for the nomination. Tim really wanted it. Christine was not the sacraficial Lamb.
Two quick observations. First, I think the civil war ended any question of secession a long time ago.
How so? What does what happened in 1861 have to do with today, other than the obvious fact that we have again reached a cultural schism? I don’t think there’s any US Grants or Shermans in the ranks of today’s left. As a matter of fact, the left (‘old’ U.S.) will, unlike 1861, acquiesce.
Second, your comment: “With the exception of Castle, the Delaware know-it-all Republican hierarchy’s habit of running ‘moderate’ candidates has been, for the past several election cycles, an abysmal failure. Maybe it’s time to try something new” completely and conveniently overlooks the fact that Christine O’Donnell was the candidate for Senate in 2008 and got thumped…
You’re kidding, right? O’Donnell, a political neophyte with no money, against Biden, a 30-year incumbent. Try again.
Carper, 8 years, Minner, 8 years, Markell (8 years?)..Gee, those good ‘ol boy ‘moderate’ Republican candidates really did great.
“TW, Christine did get nominated for senate in 2008 but sheesh, she was running against Biden for God’s sake. Do you really think the Blue Blood GOP in this state nominated for any other reason than she was willing to do it and they knew the pubs didn’t have a chance against Biden?”
The Blue Blood GOPer who promoted Christine the most for the 2008 run was Vance Phillips at the time the Vice Chairman of the party.
I don’t think of Vance as a Blue Blood Gop’er but I’ll allow that my term is vague. I consider Mike Castle, of course, a Blue Blood. Lots of others but I’ll not name names. But not Phillips.
I have no problem with nominating her to run for senate in 2008 against Biden. It’s just that the fact that she lost is now being used against her and, silly me, an American who believes in fairness, it doesn’t seem fair. She was running against Biden….no repub was going to beat him. Even at that O’Donnell didn’t do half bad.
If there was a nobody Dem running in 2008….like a Chris Coons….just sayin’, O’donnell never would have gotten the nomination as I see it.