Privatize the Children

I support the privatization of children. Now I know this will probably draw as much blowback as the idea of even partially privatizing social security did, but someone has to say it. Until they become adults they should belong to their families. A mother and father should have the rights and responsibilities to raise their children. They should be allowed to choose where their child lives, where they go to receive their education, if and where they attend church, what food their children will eat, and where they will go on vacation and how they will use their free time. If a parent wants to home school their child that should be their right, if they want to send them to a public, a private, or a charter school that should be their right. No matter where they choose to have their children educated parents should have the ability to influence what their children are taught. Unfortunately, I can’t say that is the case here in the United States of America. Now some may say that it takes a village to raise a child. Some such as Melissa Harris-Perry of MSNBC go even further and say: “We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children.  Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility.  We haven’t had a very collective notion of these are our children.  So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.” I say that any influence that a village has on the upbringing of a child should be at the direction and under the oversight of that child’s parents. The village is there to support the family in its work not to supplant it. That applies doubly so to the government. If a family has to move due to work, than the parents get to keep their underage children, not the village. Mom and dad should have the choice to decide what food to put on their child’s plate or in their lunch box, and no government or school should second guess their choice. If a parent wants to give their kid money to pay for school lunch, that is great, but the school has no right to throw away the kid’s bag lunch if it doesn’t match their standards. The government has no right to take the money of its taxpayers, and spend it on an education system that shuts the parents out, or limits their involvement in what their children are learning.  

19 thoughts on “Privatize the Children”

  1. Tim, your piece only describes good parents. With bad parents what you describe is unChristian and immoral….. Even in a christening or baptism, the congregation affirms that as a group, they will look out for the welfare of the child being honored.

    That is natural law, that the village should take care of raising children.

  2. “… but the school has no right to throw away the kid’s bag lunch if it doesn’t match their standards. “

    Melissa does not say anything about lunch in the video.

  3. Kavips, there are already procedures in place if a parent abdicates their parental rights and responsibilities either voluntarily through adoption, or involuntarily in being declared criminally unfit. Until one of those two things happens all outside involvement should come only under the direction and consent of the parents. No outside institution should be able to shut out parents from raising their children so long as those parents didn’t give up the right or loose it because of criminal actions.

    Natural law is that a mother and father have first right and responsibility to raise their children. That is the only natural relationship that is not created, only recognized by government. All other relationships are constructs of societies and governments. The willingness of a congregation, or a community, or a government to assist a family in the upbringing of their children is a wonderful thing, but it does not equate to the right or permission to do so.

    Also, while my initial blog article only describes good parents (a subjective term) however, people like Melissa Harris-Perry don’t distinguish at all between good and bad parents. They want joint or perhaps even government ownership of the children of all parents.

  4. “We have never invested as much in public education as we should have…

    Huh? We spend more per-pupil than any nation in the world. Typical Princeton dolt.

    …because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of these are our children…

    That’s right, and it served the nation quite well. What normal person would want their children raised by a someone like you and the BO apparatchiks?

  5. There are two things a parent should give every child, an education and values. No village or collective effort can take the place of loving and caring parents. Those who point to government or the village are clearly abrogating their responsibilities as a parent and searching for someone else to do the heavy lifting.

    I have been a parent for almost 33 years and the blindingly stupid comments by this pseudo intellectual are so far from my experiences with two sons. Nutcases like her will always want to “invest” more money yet spit on parental/student education choice. They ask for more money to be spent on government schools while at the same time they seek to constrain tax money following the student in order to protect a failed system with failing teachers.

    She would have to study to be a moron.

  6. “She would have to study to be a moron.”

    Melissa Harris-Perry “received a bachelor of arts in English from Wake Forest University in 1994 and a Ph.D. in political science from Duke University in 1999. She also received an honoris causa doctorate from Meadville Lombard Theological School. Motivated to better understand the role of the Black church in political movements, she was a Master of Divinity student at Union Theological Seminary of New York City.”

    Mike Protack “graduated from the University of Delaware, where he earned a Bachelor’s degree in International Relations in 1979. He went on to serve in the United States Marine Corps, where he was a helicopter pilot and recruiter.”

    Both from Wikipedia.

  7. A degree in English and Political Science- both bulls@!t degrees. And without affirmative action, she’d be a waitress.

    A Princeton dolt like MHP probably wouldn’t know about, say Brook farm…or, our little experiment in French Socialism in New Harmony. It was almost two-hundred years ago, but remember, technology changes but people don’t.


    Leaving England for the United States, Robert Owen and his sons began an experiment with a socialist community in New Harmony, Indiana in 1825. Advertisements announced the experiment for the cooperative colony, bringing various people to attempt an 8-hour work day of which Owen was a proponent. The town banned money and other commodities for trade, using “labour tickets” denominated in the number of hours worked.[16]

    Owen’s son, Robert Dale Owen, would say of the failed socialism experiment that the people at New Harmony were “a heterogeneous collection of radicals, enthusiastic devotees to principle, honest latitudinarians, and lazy theorists, with a sprinkling of unprincipled sharpers thrown in.”[16] The larger community lasted only until 1827 at which time smaller communities were formed, which led to further subdivision, until individualism replaced socialism in 1828. New Harmony was dissolved in 1829 due to constant quarrels as parcels of land and property were sold and returned to private use.[16]

    Individualist anarchist Josiah Warren, who was one of the original participants in the New Harmony Society, asserted that the community was doomed to failure due to a lack of individual sovereignty and private property. He wrote of the community: “It seemed that the difference of opinion, tastes and purposes increased just in proportion to the demand for conformity. Two years were worn out in this way; at the end of which, I believe that not more than three persons had the least hope of success. Most of the experimenters left in despair of all reforms, and conservatism felt itself confirmed. We had tried every conceivable form of organization and government. We had a world in miniature. –we had enacted the French revolution over again with despairing hearts instead of corpses as a result. …It appeared that it was nature’s own inherent law of diversity that had conquered us …our ‘united interests’ were directly at war with the individualities of persons and circumstances and the instinct of self-preservation… and it was evident that just in proportion to the contact of persons or interests, so are concessions and compromises indispensable.” (Periodical Letter II 1856).

    People are not and never will be “equal.” Some people have superior ambition or intelligence or simply more sheer will than others. Of course, under a strict socialist dictatorship, as found in Cuba or N. Korea or the old USSR, people are equal- equally miserable.

    “Socialism is Theft”

  8. Fundamentalist Muslims agree with this position. They know that teaching girls to read or allowing them to wear western clothes gives them unwholesome ideas.

  9. Actually you kind of make my point. Fundamentalist Muslims give their children to Islam (the village) first. Islam sets the rules and the parents execute them. It is Islam deciding what the children should eat, how they should dress, and what education they should receive.

  10. Leaving England for the United States, Robert Owen and his sons>>>>> began an experiment<<<<< with a socialist community….

    You have to love Americans, at least in the past… when people were often more interested in reality than entertainment. Just do an experiment and see if it works* or not before you try to implement it all over a nation or write that “We are all socialists now.” like the journalists/imbeciles at Newsweek, etc. (Actually, you’re almost defunct now… maybe you should consider that.)

    *Quote: “Owen couldn’t quite bring himself to give up ownership of his own property….” Indeed.

    Unfortunately people can’t really try capitalism or socialism or even some other system at a local level these days though… as massive global banksterism and financial lawlessness is generally the only rule of the day at this point. Lawlessness and rule by organized crime is not capitalism or socialism… although I guess one could argue that capitalism and socialism have never existed, mainly because they’re ideals in the mind that often have little to do with reality.

    Meanwhile, the bankster class seems to be basically telling Americans what they’re generally going to continue doing even in low level marketing, like the ads on TV where they portray investing paper ponzi in “emerging markets” as the wave of the future and so on. It would be one thing if they were paying for the American navy as a “global force for good”* or Team America, World Police… or even paying taxes in America to pay for the navy… but they often aren’t. Although, I guess banksters are moving even farther toward paying for their own mercenaries, their own police $tate… and even a few “terrists” to keep creating more hopium and change under Obama’s tender love, care and leadership at this point.

    In any event, if only Biden could leave US out of Obama Inc.’s “new world order” and go found his own little colony or whatever. It would be a disaster, even with all Jon Corzine’s genius too… but at least it wouldn’t be a great big MFing GLOBAL disaster.

    *Another TV ad…. may as well advertize globalism openly to “the base” of red state nationalists, at this point. And here we thought that they were our forces, fighting “patriotically” for us in some way? I guess that’s a bit like “our” federal reserve notes. If the private banking cartel’s paper ponzi needs to be infused with value then they become “our” notes to bail out or go to war to protect and fuse into petrodollars and so on and so forth. But if they need to be reduced in value or the value looted out to the .001%, then it turns out that they actually are their notes… legally too! Thanks again, to the moral degenerates in Congress…. if they can’t even give up their political careers or risk a drop in poll numbers to do the right thing, it’s likely that no one is going to risk scandal, death by a “main stream” of lemmings in the mainstream media… or even assassination and worse if history is any measure. So, enjoy the show in a world where perceptions are reality? It would all have a lot more entertainment value if no one was paying for it.

  11. Melissa Harris-Perry “received a bachelor of arts in English from Wake Forest University in 1994 and a Ph.D. in political science from Duke University in 1999. She also received an honoris causa doctorate from Meadville Lombard Theological School. Motivated to better understand the role of the Black church in political movements, she was a Master of Divinity student at Union Theological Seminary of New York City.”

    Impressive… if that’s what you’re into as a form of entertainment.

    Meanwhile… what wealth has she created to provide for her own lifestyle in the physical realm? Has she invented anything? Is she even aware of the technologies that have been used to create enough wealth to provide a lifestyle in which she can apparently generally sit around writing or offering her opinion on “society” and history?

    I mean, I’m all for doing that. But we should at least be aware of why we can do it.

  12. Meanwhile… what wealth has she created to provide for her own lifestyle in the physical realm? Has she invented anything? Is she even aware of the technologies that have been used to create enough wealth to provide a lifestyle in which she can apparently generally sit around writing…

    She’s somewhat ‘aware’…she knows that Ford, Westinghouse, Rockefeller, Carrier, Wright et. al., were capitalist opportunists who stole from the people.

  13. Unless drones become self-aware (I AM…) we will never have enough technology and wealth for people to sit around writing about philosophy, history or the struggles of people born with third nipples against discrimination in the late 1900s… or whatever women and effeminate men are trending toward studying in college at this point.

    We have a lot of technology… even enough for an entertainer in chief to assassinate Muslims without trial for being terrists (but never Jewish terrists), etc. Yet there’s never enough to sit around playing pretend about things forever… even if people who actually aren’t really doing much in reality can coast on old capital and “full faith and credit” in their bankster’s* paper ponzi for a while. Maybe if someone is planning on inventing self-replicating, self-aware automatons to represent people and do their work? Then we could be like gods to them, etc. But socialism still wouldn’t work, even if they were programmed for it… no doubt. Self-awareness = self-interest? So your first general rule for your lowly bots would probably have to be to love you as their creator and to love others of their kind to the same extent that they love themselves. Although even that apparently simple rule would probably go wrong in some ways, thanks to self-awareness and therefore creativity being included in the equation.

    It’s all theoretical. We could probably settle for inventing a robot with a smooth bipedal gait that could run for days on water and a few plant or animal products, etc. Something like humans, imagine the possibilities!

    But trying to understand technology, life and the creation of wealth and adaptation/technique is probably a little more important than “…understanding the role of the Black church in political movements…”

    *Sometimes one has to wonder if the bankster’s and the super dooper top secret elite types are right in the end and people like Jefferson** were wrong… the people themselves are too stupid, apathetic, misguided and so on. So there you go, that leaves the 1% of the elite to rule and decide what trends will be produced among the sheeple, when it is time for a shearing, when it is time to grow fat, when it is time for slaughter and so on and so forth. The most likely trend for those looking to the State and the Money Power that gives it power these days is happy and gay for now in the here and now, sad later… but here we are for now, so entertain us!

    **Notice how he actually invented things that others found valuable and pushed for decentralization, even if he probably did smoke dope, grew hemp and went skinny dipping at night on public property like some Occupy bum… just saying. Actually he probably drank raw milk too… makes you wonder how he survived so long without some modern SWAT teams there to protect him from his own diarrhea or his drug of choice, etc. But anyway, modern sheeple are more enlightened now… so we better look to a central bank and its banksters to finance us some $afety first!!! Fun times.

  14. Kavips, thanks for throwing a compliment into the middle of the discussion. On these political blogs we are all pretty good at being critical, so a moment of appreciation for another person is a welcome change of pace.

    Personally, I am sure that Melissa Harris-Perry is proficient in her job and I respect her technical skills, in much the same way that I respect the skills of the play-write George Bernard Shaw. However, when it comes to the positions she advocates I find them almost as alarming as the socio-political positions of Shaw who was also a well known figure in his day that held some views as a Fabian Socialist that would surprise those with normal sensitivities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBRjU9P5eo&list=UUltKZ5e2v3ysUu1OTiQc72A&index=10

  15. Actually besides a compliment, it was acknowledgement of a mind changing event. you know how sometimes something shifts, and we suddenly see a side or perspective that has been there all along, but not facing us so we couldn’t see?

    Now is not the proper time to put it in perspective, but I kind of grasped from that remark that perhaps, having the two thoughts running parallel through society, so if the nuclear family is strong, the family gets to make its decisions but if there is no family, then a village needs to take in and not let that child slide through a crack, is best… It is not whether one is better than the other we need to discuss… it is instead, when we should use the one option, or when it might better suit to use the other…..

    I realized from the argument,that from the perspective you were speaking, I certainly agreed with you. But in another situation, were there were no family to step in, as a society we really do need a village support system to take care of those instances… So, one is not better than the other, and they should not be in conflict. The secret is to broaden one’s perspective and realize there is a time and place for both…..

  16. A Philadelphia couple — serving 10 years’ probation for the 2009 death of their toddler after they turned to prayer instead of a doctor — has violated their probation now that another of their children has died.

    Herbert and Catherine Schaible belong to a fundamentalist Christian church that believes in faith-healing.

    Philadelphia Judge Benjamin Lerner said at a hearing they violated the most important condition of their probation: to seek medical care for their remaining children.

    Authorities have yet to file criminal charges in the death of the 8-month-old boy last week, after he suffered with diarrhea and breathing problems for days. But charges could be filed once authorities pinpoint how the baby died.

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