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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.delawarepolitics.net/owens-d-23-shows-true-colors-in-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-21077</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost all Socialist-Democrats are pathetic liars, who&#039;ll say anything to get elected. It&#039;s the Obama-Allinsky way, and it will spell doom in &#039;10. Keep it up, maggots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost all Socialist-Democrats are pathetic liars, who&#8217;ll say anything to get elected. It&#8217;s the Obama-Allinsky way, and it will spell doom in &#8217;10. Keep it up, maggots.</p>
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		<title>By: noman</title>
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		<dc:creator>noman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course anybody who needs care should be treated somehow. 

But I am having trouble with the concept of a &quot;registered undocumented immigrant.&quot;

I think the way to deal with illegal immigrants is to lock up their employers.  Half a dozen CEOs in jail for 1-year sentences, with businesses shut down, is all it would take to cut the illegal population in half or more. Make no mistake, Americans *would* take the jobs that would be freed up. 

If we aren&#039;t going to do that, then we are really saying that all the illegals should be treated as legal and are entitled to stay. Once we do that we may as well make them all citizens and let them sign up for health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course anybody who needs care should be treated somehow. </p>
<p>But I am having trouble with the concept of a &#8220;registered undocumented immigrant.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the way to deal with illegal immigrants is to lock up their employers.  Half a dozen CEOs in jail for 1-year sentences, with businesses shut down, is all it would take to cut the illegal population in half or more. Make no mistake, Americans *would* take the jobs that would be freed up. </p>
<p>If we aren&#8217;t going to do that, then we are really saying that all the illegals should be treated as legal and are entitled to stay. Once we do that we may as well make them all citizens and let them sign up for health care.</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just the opposite.  I think a health care policy should actually save lives not take life.  (Stupak stops tax money from going to abortions.)

I do not think there is any public good having a poor, sick, and injured underclass incubating disease which may eventually impact my family.  It is inhumane and counterproductive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just the opposite.  I think a health care policy should actually save lives not take life.  (Stupak stops tax money from going to abortions.)</p>
<p>I do not think there is any public good having a poor, sick, and injured underclass incubating disease which may eventually impact my family.  It is inhumane and counterproductive.</p>
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		<title>By: noman</title>
		<link>http://www.delawarepolitics.net/owens-d-23-shows-true-colors-in-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-21051</link>
		<dc:creator>noman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there was not likely to be any prohibition added to the House bill against illegal immigrants shopping in the exchange.”

And if it *could* happen, it *will* happen... those poor puppies!!

Actually I would be fine with a final bill that excludes illegals and removes Stupak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there was not likely to be any prohibition added to the House bill against illegal immigrants shopping in the exchange.”</p>
<p>And if it *could* happen, it *will* happen&#8230; those poor puppies!!</p>
<p>Actually I would be fine with a final bill that excludes illegals and removes Stupak.</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not claiming it.  The Gouverneur Times is along with those sinister guys &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gouverneurtimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=7590:house-dems-push-for-votes-on-health-bill-&amp;catid=54:worldnational-news&amp;Itemid=153&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at the AP.&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;HR 3962 now also contains language that allows illegal immigrants to be covered under the legislation. 

 When The Gouverneur Times attempted to contact Mr. Owens for clarification of this language, we received no response other than the press release heretofore mentioned.  Specifically, we asked if illegal immigrants would be forced to purchase healthcare insurance as citizens will be and whether or not they would be forced to do so at standard rates or if they would qualify for the public option subsidy.

The Associated Press said this morning that: &quot;House leaders said that, in keeping with the Hispanic Caucus&#039; demands, there was not likely to be any prohibition added to the House bill against illegal immigrants shopping in the exchange.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not claiming it.  The Gouverneur Times is along with those sinister guys <a href="http://www.gouverneurtimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=7590:house-dems-push-for-votes-on-health-bill-&#038;catid=54:worldnational-news&#038;Itemid=153" rel="nofollow">at the AP.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>HR 3962 now also contains language that allows illegal immigrants to be covered under the legislation. </p>
<p> When The Gouverneur Times attempted to contact Mr. Owens for clarification of this language, we received no response other than the press release heretofore mentioned.  Specifically, we asked if illegal immigrants would be forced to purchase healthcare insurance as citizens will be and whether or not they would be forced to do so at standard rates or if they would qualify for the public option subsidy.</p>
<p>The Associated Press said this morning that: &#8220;House leaders said that, in keeping with the Hispanic Caucus&#8217; demands, there was not likely to be any prohibition added to the House bill against illegal immigrants shopping in the exchange.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: noman</title>
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		<dc:creator>noman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Democrat leadership said it would allow them to buy in without subsidy. &lt;/i&gt;

I hadn&#039;t heard this. Do you have a link?

&lt;i&gt;it is good policy in both his mind and mine.&lt;/i&gt;

My head is spinning. So you are falsely claiming that Owens wants to cover illegal immigrants, and then agreeing with your own strawman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Democrat leadership said it would allow them to buy in without subsidy. </i></p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard this. Do you have a link?</p>
<p><i>it is good policy in both his mind and mine.</i></p>
<p>My head is spinning. So you are falsely claiming that Owens wants to cover illegal immigrants, and then agreeing with your own strawman?</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do not need to ban illegal activity in every bill.  You do need to specify if you are changing existing policy.  The Democrat leadership said it would allow them to buy in without subsidy.  I actually don&#039;t have a problem with that.  It is just another product.  I was just wonder what happen to Archie Bunker Owens.

To your question in 6.  The answer is simple, it is good policy in both his mind and mine.   He is afraid to say it and campaigns like Archie Bunker but votes like Nancy Meathead Pelosi.   Is this the kind of leader you want?  One who rides into office on the backs of illegals?   One who exploits fears then does something completely different a week later?  He is both a liar and a demagogue.  I thought that might bother you, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do not need to ban illegal activity in every bill.  You do need to specify if you are changing existing policy.  The Democrat leadership said it would allow them to buy in without subsidy.  I actually don&#8217;t have a problem with that.  It is just another product.  I was just wonder what happen to Archie Bunker Owens.</p>
<p>To your question in 6.  The answer is simple, it is good policy in both his mind and mine.   He is afraid to say it and campaigns like Archie Bunker but votes like Nancy Meathead Pelosi.   Is this the kind of leader you want?  One who rides into office on the backs of illegals?   One who exploits fears then does something completely different a week later?  He is both a liar and a demagogue.  I thought that might bother you, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: noman</title>
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		<dc:creator>noman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So David, could you go over your logic for why you think Owens wants to cover illegal immigrants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So David, could you go over your logic for why you think Owens wants to cover illegal immigrants?</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grinding up live puppies is against the law.  Current law forbids denying medical services to illegals.  It also makes federal and state medicaid money available to them if they qualify.  Without a specific change, the current state stays.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grinding up live puppies is against the law.  Current law forbids denying medical services to illegals.  It also makes federal and state medicaid money available to them if they qualify.  Without a specific change, the current state stays.</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Owens want immigrants to be sick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Owens want immigrants to be sick?</p>
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