Anon, worrying about the gap between rich and poor does not mean a person is a Communist. Every American Economist including conservatives are well aware of the danger presented by extreme gaps in wealth. Historically, that is how the Marxist came to power. Too many poor people you get revolutions. French. Russia. Cuba. China. That’s what did it. A few rich, too may poor. We work to make sure that does not happen here. American’s Great Middle Class did not just happen. We built it. The Inheritance Tax was discussed in Colonial Times as a way to prevent too much wealth from accumulating in the hands of a few families. Everybody from Jefferson on pondered how we could avoid aristocracy, plutocracy. There’s a reason those words existed way before there were Marxists. It’s not a Commie Red thing. Just economics, social policy theory.

We want to make sure one guy does not win the grand prize of Capitalism, ends up owning everything. So we do little things to bust things up. Spread the wealth. It’s very American.

Really that last turtlesoup comment was such a complete steaming crock of crap I can’t even begin to respond.

I want to hear Anon talk about Usury Law.

The Founders and the original Usury Laws? Really gets to the heart of the original role of government prior to the 1980′s. Thomas Paine and those guys had a lot to say about debt, lenders, the obligation of the new Government to jump in there. Heck, that’s half the reason they invented a whole new Government – to help folks get liberated and happy. Not just liberated from a King. Liberated from economic injustice as well. They escaped a rigid Class system with debtor prisons.

We will not permit a Class system to rear it’s ugly head in the United States. That’s why we make sure wealth is distributed. The Government is the instrument by which we secure social and economic justice. It’s sort of a Blessing Of Liberty things.

Costa Rica beckons…

God you people are obsessive megalomaniacs. We just want out of your pit.

Surely you won’t stand in the way of dismantling your welfare state right?

Civil disobedience? How about big national elections every 2,4,6 years? Remember how that works? Elections? In 2008 120 million voted. Most ever. Maybe you don’t even like Government sponsored elections? Everybody too dumb for smart guys like you?

You seem totally oblivious if not ignorant that there are huge distortions in the health care system flowing from government meddlings already long underway. When you for once acknowledge all the unintended costs and consequences and unsustainability of the existing government welfare health care programs maybe you will have a shred of intellectual honesty even as you argue for their massive expansion.

Are you aware for example that only 3% of Medicare reimbursement claims are even reviewed much less substantiated by an actual bureaucrat before they are paid within 30 days of their submission? This is an incredible recipe for waste and fraud with slim to no chance of ever getting caught. That’s just Medicare. One can only imagine if they take over the whole system. We will have skads more of inefficient lumpkin bureaucrats who still barely scratch the surface of these automated giveaways rife with potential for cost inflation and fraud.

Also you obviously believe everyone is being bled dry to obtain health insurance or care. I don’t see this with anyone in my sphere of the world —- and I mean anyone.

In my view you have had bad experiences with health care as your fate in this life – so your answer to your own problems and past issues with health care is to enslave the rest of us and the future of us to pay for your shortfalls or “what you want” while cloaking it all as some humanitarian imperative.

Bull. Shit. On. That. I will take the imperfect individual based free choice system over your spread the wealth around and let government force me into ANY insurance payments or programs of health that unaccountable denizens government decides best suits fit for me.

I am about fed up with anecdotal sob stories that are used to justify turning the exceptions to good health care outcomes into the measure by which the system should be manipulated wholesale. For every person with a health care horror or bad luck there are dozens who have done just fine with their own health decisions.

People of your mindset — the Constance Dogooders of the world – should for once grasp that life comes with no guarantees and it will never ever be the utopia you have in mind for all. Yours or any of your holy politicians’ narrow lenses of understanding can never grasp diversity and choice when the power you seek requires uniformity and coercion.

As I wrote before it’s really just that simple and it is why you must be stopped by all means necessary including civil disobedience to any government coercion.

Also I ask again– please spare us the grandiose evangelism. Your pleadings have no more gravitas or moral authority than any other collectivist who wants us to believe their incursions into private life – ultimately at gunpoint – are all just in the nature of selfless public service and altruism.

That is just horse dung glittered with fool’s gold.