Now sick babies go on death pathway

When conservatives and those of faith opposed abortion on demand, they argued that the acceptance of this type of procedure would eventually lead to infanticide and pressured euthanasia. Liberals responded with “Oh that would never happen.” Well once again liberals are wrong. It is coming to pass in Great Britain.

Sick children and babies are being having food and hydration withheld because their cases are “futile”. My experience is that any baby will die after not having food or water for a period of time.

Conservatives have also argued that the supposed cost savings for Obamacare would eventually lead to Death Panels. This would be in an effort “save” the government money.

Actually, In socialized medicine Great Britain, it is not called Death panels, it is called the Pathways to Death. Gosh, that sounds so much nicer.

Testimony by doctors and nurses are showing that infants with disabilities are being starved and dehydrated because their condition is considered “futile”.

Here are some more sub headlines from the UK Dail Mail:

Practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube being used on young patients

Doctor admits starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in neonatal unit

Investigation, including child patients, will look at whether cash payments to hospitals to hit death pathway targets have influenced doctors’ decisions

According to the British Journal of Medicine a doctor reports her personal experience.

One doctor, acting as a whistle blower, admitted to starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in the neonatal unit of one hospital in a leading medical journal. The doctor describes it as a 10-day process, during which the baby becomes “smaller and shrunken.”

But , the Government is saving money and they do have Universal Health Insurance.
The outfit being charged with these horrific practices is the Liverpool Care Pathway. Hey, that name
sounds nice. They don’t even call themselves the Liverpool Death Panels.

More from the British Medical Journal:

The investigation, which will include child patients, will look at whether cash payments to hospitals to hit death pathway targets have influenced doctors’ decisions.

Medical critics of the LCP insist it is impossible to say when a patient will die and as a result the LCP death becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. They say it is a form of euthanasia, used to clear hospital beds and save the NHS Government Agency) money.

But it is not as if the NHS and the LCP only want to kill babies. One 14 year old cancer patient was witheld water. His tongue had dried out until it stuck to the roof of his mouth.
But liberals everywhere have been calling for a single payer system and death of babies will be what you get. It is already happenning.

Obamacare will fail and at that time the Liberals will call for a single payer system. When that occurs, a liberal can wait until after the baby has passed thru the birth canal to get rid of it.

20 thoughts on “Now sick babies go on death pathway

  1. “liberals everywhere have been calling for a single payer system and death of babies will be what you get. It is already happenning.”

    Nice try, but neither the article nor you shows any correlation between single-payer health care and withholding of food and water to terminal patients. If it were an inevitable result of single-payer systems, it would be happening in all countries that use one, not just England.

    It should also be noted that these are babies with severe birth defects. They aren’t doing it to healthy children, so “dead babies” were going to be the result no matter what treatment they got.

    “Obamacare will fail”

    This is nothing but a lazy prediction with nothing to back it up. Romneycare hasn’t failed in Massachusetts. That’s the only point of comparison, so you have nothing to support your claim.

    “and at that time the Liberals will call for a single payer system. ”

    We’re already calling for it, because it’s the only way to bring down the cost of health care.

    “When that occurs, a liberal can wait until after the baby has passed thru the birth canal to get rid of it.”

    Classy, as usual. Just because you can’t tell the difference between a fetus brought to term and one aborted in the first trimester — which is when 88% of American abortions occur — doesn’t mean nobody else can either.

  2. This is nothing but a lazy prediction with nothing to back it up. Romneycare hasn’t failed in Massachusetts.

    It takes decades to go bankrupt. Eventually, there’s nothing left to tax.

    There is really only one difference between private healthcare and government-run healthcare. ‘Public’ institutions are rife with fraud, inefficiency, incompetence, laziness and protected employees that cannot be fired. Private institutions run like government entities go out of business…’public’ entities simply demand more largess from the treasury.

  3. “Nice try, but neither the article nor you shows any correlation between single-payer health care and withholding of food and water to terminal patients. If it were an inevitable result of single-payer systems, it would be happening in all countries that use one, not just England.”

    Try, the Soviet Union and the rest of the Communist bloc. I know liberals don’t like to talk about them since liberals spied for the Communists, apologised for the Communists and betrayed our nation and that includes New York Times folks. Also Geezer, I know your historic knowledge is weak, but check out the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich to see how they handled disabled babies. When the system is under cost constraints the oldest and youngest will be at risk.

    Geezer says, “it should also be noted that these are babies with severe birth defects. They aren’t doing it to healthy children, so “dead babies” were going to be the result no matter what treatment they got.”

    Only a committed liberal like Geezer woould say that the method of dealing with these babies with disabilities is to starve them and not give them water. Geezer you are eventually going to die as well. How about not giving you food and water? For the record I have seen some extremely disabled babies make it.

    “This is nothing but a lazy prediction with nothing to back it up. Romneycare hasn’t failed in Massachusetts. That’s the only point of comparison, so you have nothing to support your claim.”

    I have the stories of Eastern Europeans who have immigrated to this country. I have William Shirey’s the “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” Socialized medicines fail all except for the well connected. This is why liberals want it.

    “Classy as usual,”
    Anyone who goes on the radio attempting to use a cheesy Mexican accent and then to try to blame Colin Bonini for the problems in this state has no room to talk about classiness.

    Just because you can’t tell the difference between a fetus brought to term and one aborted in the first trimester — which is when 88% of American abortions occur — doesn’t mean nobody else can either.

    Geezer another straw man argument on your part. This post was about children who were already born on your part. One was 14!!!
    Geezer you are being totally dishonest. None of these babies were in the first trimester.

    Show me the survey where Americans approve of killing disabled babies by starvation and dehydration. That was the topic of the post.

  4. “It takes decades to go bankrupt. Eventually, there’s nothing left to tax.”

    Ah, I see. So it will “fail” long after I’m dead.

    “There is really only one difference between private healthcare and government-run healthcare. ‘Public’ institutions are rife with fraud, inefficiency, incompetence, laziness and protected employees that cannot be fired. Private institutions run like government entities go out of business…’public’ entities simply demand more largess from the treasury.”

    Then explain why Medicare does its job at about 10% of the cost as private health insurance — and, unlike private insurers (and exactly the opposite of your claim) they don’t raise premiums every year.

    Which sector do you work in, Rick? I’ve worked for incompetent private-sector employers and they’re still going strong.

    If you want to be taken seriously, you’re going to have to do better than merely restating your bilious biases every time you type.

  5. “Show me the survey where Americans approve of killing disabled babies by starvation and dehydration. That was the topic of the post.”

    Sure. Right after you show me the evidence to back up your silly predictions.

    If you want to compare health care in the wealthiest nation in the world to the Eastern Bloc nations during the Cold War, can I compare private-sector health care in the Third World to ours? Because that’s about equal in accuracy.

    Every other First World nation has single-payer health care. One horror story does not a compelling argument make.

  6. “Anyone who goes on the radio attempting to use a cheesy Mexican accent”

    Sorry, you have the wrong guy.

    “and then to try to blame Colin Bonini for the problems in this state”

    Never did any such thing. Blamed him for keeping Tony DeLuca in his job, which he did. He’s also the laziest legislator in Dover, which is saying something, as well as a chiseling clown who cashed checks for jobs he didn’t do.

    “has no room to talk about classiness.”

    Since you were wrong on both counts, I’ll reiterate — you’re a totally classless guy. Thanks for proving it once more.

  7. Ah, I see. So it will “fail” long after I’m dead.

    Maybe in America, if we’re lucky.

    But Europe in general and Britain specifically may find out just how full of love and care everyone there is if their banking system collapses even more than it already has.

    There’s some evidence that Britain sold about half of its gold at “Brown’s bottom” in the market. So again, people will probably have to begin thinking about just how full of love and “healthcare” for them the managers of their paper ponzi “debts” are too. We can probably count ourselves lucky that we’re still lagging behind them in some sense, despite the best efforts of Obama Inc. and his gang of thieves and psychopaths.

    How soon are you planning on getting your healthcare? Will it be before or after you get your social security and your pension and maybe a little bit of regurgitated cake after you have your cake and then eat the middle class baker too?

    Get real… but here’s to hoping that forcing everyone into “too big to fail” insurance pools will drive down healthcare costs for big fat Boomers (cough). (Even as the wealth supposedly being stored in insurance pools is being drained by banksters with zero percent interests rates and quantitative easing to infinity and beyond anyway. That will end well.)

    There are a lot of variables, so maybe things will turn out. How to imagine how, at this point. But I’d imagine that it will be despite the best efforts of the thieves of Obama Inc. and probably even progressives in general, if so.

  8. Every other First World nation has single-payer health care.

    And pretty much every other First World nation better get their banksters in order if they supposedly expect to get more “healthcare,” beginning with Britain.

    How is the healthcare system in Greece doing, anyway?

  9. From the article:
    “Some say withdrawing medically provided hydration and nutrition is akin to withdrawing any other form of life support. Maybe, but that is not how it feels. The one thing that helps me a little is the realisation that this process is necessarily difficult. It needs to be.

    To acknowledge that a child’s prospects are so dire, so limited, that we will not or cannot provide artificial nutrition is self selecting for the rarity of the situations in which parents and care teams would ever consider it.”

    I agree that prolonging suffering is cruel, which is why I’m surprised there is no morphine drip involved. After all that’s how we do it in the states.

    Every hospital I have ever worked in has had an Ethics Committee that deals with medically futile situations. The article dosn’t detail the medical conditions of the patients so it really is difficult to compare how these issues are dealt with in the UK vs. the USA.

    But the point I really want to drive home here is that decisions to withdraw care in medically futile cases is done all the time and has been, for many, many years right here in this state. And sometimes, though much more rarely, the decisions is made by an ethics committee (or death panel, if you will) instead of the next of kin.

  10. Actually, if I had a baby whose arms were coming out of her eye sockets, and her legs came out of her belly button, I would follow this procedure too…

    It is simply a “do not resuscitate” for infants. An abortion would have been the better choice, however.

  11. Instead of the circle of life, the regressive left is stuck in a circle of death.

  12. David Anderson–
    1. Please explain how the “circle of death” operates.
    2. Do you realize that DEATH is part of the “circle of life”? I don’t think you do, or you wouldn’t have made such an ignorant comment.

  13. Ah, I see. So it will “fail” long after I’m dead.

    Right. Just like Social Security.

    Then explain why Medicare does its job at about 10% of the cost as private health insurance —

    According to whom? The government? Most of us have used the USPS, AMTRAK and noted the federal deficit. Unlike you and your ilk, I’ll prefer to believe my own two eyes.

    If you want to be taken seriously, you’re going to have to do better than merely restating your bilious biases every time you type.

    See above. It’s not my fault that you’re a naive sucker for government ‘statistics.’ Try using your own two eyes.

  14. People don’t have a right to medical care in the first place.

    And soon they probably won’t even have the right to pursue it for themselves.

    Something along the lines of: “War on drugs! War on prescriptions! War on that procedure, it’s dangerous and our female lemmings want more caring and less risk!!! Everyone can be too big to fail or succeed now, no risk and no failure!”

    But here’s an interesting question, do people who are incapable of governing themselves in a world of risk have a “right” to go to Walmart Inc. to use food stamps financed by others who did take risks and therefore created wealth to get even fatter?

    After all, isn’t food a right before getting the healthcare that people need after eating it is?

    *

    In the ten years to 2010, the severely obese (Americans who are 100lbs or more overweight) increased about 70%. A new study from RAND Corporation (via ScienceDaily) found that “the proportion of people at the high end of the weight scale continues to increase faster than any other group of obese people, despite increased public attention on the risks of obesity.”
    Up from 3.9% to 6.6% (or more than 15 million people) of our population is now morbidly obese. The prevalence of severe obesity was about 50 percent higher among women than among men, and about twice as high among blacks when compared to Hispanics or whites. Increases in obesity were also fastest in the younger cohorts – under 40.
    (America’s Fattest Are Getting Fattest-er Faster)

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