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Not All Illegals are here to Work

Jul 31st, 2010 by David Anderson

Most illegal aliens were lured here by the wink and nod open borders policy, and are people we would welcome here if the government got its act together.  There is an element, which takes advantage of  lack of law enforcement that we do not need here.  That is one reason why we have to get control back before we lose control. According to widely reported FBI statistics, 15% of murders or 12 people a day are killed by illegal aliens. That is a rate at least twice as high as the population at large. Still rate doesn’t matter because it should be close to zero. We can never stop it all, but screening people is essential. That is why most of us want secure borders. We understand that a country has a right to discriminate between people who want a better life and those who will make ours miserable.  More Americans are killed by illegal aliens than both wars combined.   This is a problem worth addressing.   We need to address it with compassion, reason, and the interests of all involved, but we must address it  before it hurts someone close to you.  This is why I support deporting criminals who are illegal aliens as proposed in Arizona.  It is hard for a rational person to do otherwise.

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33 Responses to “Not All Illegals are here to Work”

  1. on 31 Jul 2010 at 20:301apo wichiapi

    So David – when are you changing your name to Andrew Brietbart?? or are you looking for a job with FOX MEDIA OUTLET??

    I’d be more worried about the 85% that are murdering, more than the 15%

    oh you phrased it well and seemed moderate – but you know exacty what is on your mind – but sewed just enough crap in there to later dis-avow your words, clever boy – so when one of those nice DRAM ACT kids – you claim to care about – gets assaulted, like what has already happened in Delaware – you will feel good about it??? feel no shame when a Latino or Asian or other “forgein” person gets beaten to death – because YOUR WORDS and SPIN have set up an innocent person to be hurt?

    http://immigrationimpact.com/2009/12/16/shenandoah-is-a-cautionary-tale-for-how-to-debate-immigration-reform/

    sure -many criminals have snuck in here – lets get them out – however your numbers come from nativist groups – WILLIAM GHEEN – ALIPAC is watched more than MS-13 – and sparks more hatred
    Center for Immigration Reform is open about wanting to combat ALL immigration, not just illegal immigration

    I will bet 5 dollars that it will come out that this vandalism will NOT be MS-13 related – they are not racist – just vicious crimanls – this graffitti does not fit their tagging profile – they tag to denote territory and accept ALL races into their gang – as long as they are criminals – race is not their issue – this is the work of some idiot trying to pucsh an agenda or create trouble – something the neo-nazis would do
    But you went along with it and had have just encouraged the weak-minded to focus on immigrants that probably had nothing to do with this incident

    AND – seeing as you have readers like RICK – that blindly follows and doesn’t have the mental capacity to figure out what happened on the last post….

    thanks for promoting and encouraging racial discord and hatred – you still mad I poked a good one at Christine and this is how you are going to fix it??? nice

    so.. in the intrests of being fair and balanced….and for other than the weak-minded – click the link below
    http://immigrationimpact.com/

    And David – play close attention to the “reckless disregard” of the civil lawsuit coming against Breitbart – you and your 912 buddies may be next.

  2. on 01 Aug 2010 at 06:502Lee in 2010

    Yes, but they are potential Democrat voters so they will never be held accountable. Fools like Sen Menendez NJ will stall and stop any bills under the cover of being Hispanic.

    The Dems are liars and useless idiots.

  3. on 01 Aug 2010 at 08:073alpha

    The Dems are liars and useless idiots.

    At least they didn’t propose giving drivers licenses to illegals.

  4. on 01 Aug 2010 at 08:194fightingbluehen

    Why is it that every Latin American country I have ever visited , has bars on all the doors and windows of peoples houses ?

  5. on 01 Aug 2010 at 08:445apo wichiapi

    coz screens are more expecsive… and iron is more sytlistic – ever go to southern Sapin – Barcelons? its like that there too

    Its not just for security…its art

    also go to St. Croix and St/ thomas – very prevelant there too

  6. on 01 Aug 2010 at 08:486Hube

    ts not just for security…its art

    Complete bullshit. It’s for security, pure and simple. And there’s a big difference between Spain and Latin America in terms of quality of life.

    Now, when are you going to remedial English classes, apo?

  7. on 01 Aug 2010 at 09:047David Anderson

    Screens are more expensive than iron bars. If that is true, than I know a business to start. Exporting screens from the United States where they are really cheap.

    I could buy a cultural art expression, but please don’t toss nonsense out there like iron bars are cheaper than screens.

    Remember, I am not accusing a people group of anything. I am just saying every group has its good and bad. Most who come here are upstanding and law abiding, even the ones who start off illegally. That fact should not blind us to the truth that some are here for no other reason than to break the laws, run drugs, and create their own turf to exercise power over. We can’t be blinded by sentimentality. Everyone will be safer when we get serious about enforcing the laws.

    If we do not, we will have all sorts of ethnic gangs, not just MS-13. It is already happening. The good people deserve better than to face the same thugs they left in their home country and our people deserve better than to be threatened and terrorized.

    That is why it is morally repugnant for the federal government to give a pass to sanctuary cites and blast a state that turns over law breakers to them.

  8. on 01 Aug 2010 at 09:178Hube

    The bars are there b/c Latin American countries are a lot poorer than our own, with greater disparities between rich and poor. Crimes such as robbery and theft are more prevalent than violent crimes such as murder and homicide.

    It’s that simple.

  9. on 01 Aug 2010 at 09:219David Anderson

    I believe you. I have heard that from people who lived there. I still found it funny to say that screens cost more than bars. I had to adress that.

  10. on 01 Aug 2010 at 09:2110alpha

    Why is it that every Latin American country I have ever visited , has bars on all the doors and windows of peoples houses ?

    That is the end game of income inequality.

  11. on 01 Aug 2010 at 09:4411fightingbluehen

    “That is the end game of income inequality.”
    That”s an interesting point, but why does the same phenomena occur in a communist country like Cuba .

  12. on 01 Aug 2010 at 11:4212Mike Protack

    Income inequality? So, the rich are breaking in to poor people’s houses?
    Income equality is directly tied to government corruption and control.
    The only place these corrupt countries show any democracy is when they go to the UN and spout anti American rubbish because they are a ‘sovereign state’. Yea, right.
    Another reason no country should be admitted to the UN unless they allow free elections.

  13. on 01 Aug 2010 at 11:5913apo wichiapi

    its not remedial English – it remedieal typing I need

    well remedial only if I had ever taken it in the first place – but due to gender and position, It was never required for me

    I had others to do it for me – now i try to do it myself – plus theres no spell check/grammar check here UGH so pedestrian

    and no one had explainced why Spain – a wonderfu socially progrssive and cultrually rich country had bars on their windows and how that cultural style moved to “new Spain” as it was called….of course that style is also seen all over Florida – even in the best, most affluent areas around Miami, south beach etc…

    would that be a 3rd world country?? – or a cultural/stylistic architectural perference??

    If you have never left Delwaware – or if travelled and only adhered to that ‘RESORT” AREA your cultural experience and cultural intelligence is limited – that is patently obvious,
    pedestrian and narrow – but I’m beginning to experience that alot in here

  14. on 01 Aug 2010 at 12:0014Windjammer

    David
    The sad truth is that there are increased medical costs with Illegal aliens bringing in diseases that were once virtually eradicated in America. Diseases like polio and tuberculosis were not common in America until recently.
    Franklin County Ohio Commissioners have recently approved nearly $1 million to address the growing tuberculosis epidemic. The 70 percent increase in funding was approved because two-thirds of the TB epidemic was found in foreign illegal immigrants in the Columbus Ohio area.
    Chagas disease, also called “Kissing Bug Disease,” is transmitted by the reduviid bug, which prefers to bite the lips and face. The protozoan parasite that it carries infects 18 million people annually in Latin America and causes 50,000 deaths The disease also infects America’s blood supply and there is no known cure for this disease.
    There are more ramifications than gangs and anchor babies that come along with added costs to the American taxpayer.
    I am not against legal immigration, it is how America became great. We are being invaded by a dangerous enemy and the Federal Government won’t protect us. When states take action to protect their citizens the Federal Government sues them which costs them more money and ties them up in court for years.

  15. on 01 Aug 2010 at 12:0615apo wichiapi

    gee Mike – you twice proposed we should copy Mexico’s immigration laws and do away with birthright citizenship coz “other countries do it”

    when you gonna put bars on your windows??? if you so love the laws of other lands – why not just move there??

    you say things that show you want to bring other countries out-moded and dated laws here –

    what is so funny is other countries view us as barbaric coz we have the death penalty and they will not extradite to the US unless that is removed as a penalty

    ie. Canada, England, Ireland and other NATO and EU nations – why don’t we copy THAT if you are all for copying other laws from other countries – because maybe you dont have an original thought in your head??

  16. on 01 Aug 2010 at 12:1016apo wichiapi

    david – I mean Andrew – you’re a real digger for the truth – you believe it because:

    “I believe you. I have heard that from people who lived there. I still found it funny to say that screens cost more than bars. I had to adress that.”

    LOL – get out from behind your computer grab Noel to translate for you and go to Spain – you might learn something – FIRST HAND

    and I heard the Easter Bunny is realand there is a bridge inBrooklyn they want to sell – LOL there goes you credibility – hahaha well if you had had it in the first place

  17. on 01 Aug 2010 at 12:1217Hube

    apo: I have LIVED in Third World Latin America, not merely vacationed in the resorts. Sturdy steel bars are not on windows in the vast majority of cases in Latin American countries because of aesthetics. They’re there for protection. Even in Spain (and elsewhere in Europe) iron bars on windows have their history in security, not aesthetics!

  18. on 01 Aug 2010 at 13:0418David Anderson

    Forgive me for not paying a lot of attention to a guy that thinks iron bars are cheaper than screens over people I know who actually lived in the areas in question some the majority of their lives. I just have to make my own call where I think credibility is.

    I know the price of screens and I know the price of iron bars. Comparable bars tend to run 8 times as great. Then I should believe you over everyone else or I have no credibility. Okay, so be it.

  19. on 01 Aug 2010 at 14:2819apo wichiapi

    in the throw-away society you expouse in this country certainly – DAVID

    but in countries without endless resources – the recycling is essential – and that counts toward the end cost.

    again – your ignorance of other cultures and a true understanding of the world is amazing
    don’t believe me or anyone else – do what I did – actually live there for years!! assimilate – I will assure you it is the experience of a lifetime and would open you eyes to another world

    and then you could intelligently form your OWN opinion based on your OWN experience of things you write about in here about but have only HEARD of

    sounds reasonable to me??

    OR… you can ride around with Rick in his pick’em up truck around and around the circle in Georgetown – LOL – doing the same thing day after day – never changing views or opinions

  20. on 01 Aug 2010 at 14:3320apo wichiapi

    Hube – lived for how long??? I can say I lived somewhere but it might have been a week

    sure the historical significance of the bars originally was for security – hundreds of years ago and that was brought here to the New World –

    but you cannot say that newly constructed houses/mansions in South Beach and Miami etc use them for the same reason..not with modern electronics and monitoring systems.

    be real

  21. on 01 Aug 2010 at 14:4821anon

    Not all americans are here to work either. I read where one certified USA citizen at Goldman Sachs snatched a $20 million dollar bonus from taxpayer TARP money. Be that as it may, I got my eye on my landscape guy. He looks fishy to me. Remember it’s the small people who are hurting us.

  22. on 01 Aug 2010 at 16:2422Hube

    Hube – lived for how long??? I can say I lived somewhere but it might have been a week

    Total time is approx. one year.

    sure the historical significance of the bars originally was for security – hundreds of years ago and that was brought here to the New World –

    And it remains security in Latin America, primarily.

    but you cannot say that newly constructed houses/mansions in South Beach and Miami etc use them for the same reason..not with modern electronics and monitoring systems.

    But you said it wasn’t just for security w/regards to Latin America. When it clearly is.

    Get real.

  23. on 01 Aug 2010 at 16:5023David

    I agree anon. That is a different issue but We don’t have to accept one to reject the other. I am glad to know that American gardeners are not good enough for our cheapscape exploiter. What do you pay?

  24. on 01 Aug 2010 at 18:1924Jody Sweeney

    Absolutely amazing! Am I the only one on this website that will actually look to see if some anecdotal fact is true or not? According to the original post, it says a “widely reported FBI statistics, 15% of murders or 12 people a day are killed by illegal aliens”. That information came from Congressman Steve King, R-Iowa. Key here is the “R”. Another report states, “Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens…”. The FBI Website: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_09.html
    does not include data on illegal aliens. Mr. King is using false data to try to support his agenda opposing illegal aliens. Yes, illegal aliens in the USA is a problem and needs to be resolved, but not by reporting incorrect anecdotal facts.

  25. on 01 Aug 2010 at 19:5425anon

    Jody, nice work!

  26. on 01 Aug 2010 at 21:0926David Anderson

    In other words, the FBI lies to Congress under penalty of law and tells the whole unvarnished truth to the public. I don’t buy that logic.

    Thank you for at least addressing the subject. I was just about to ask did anyone have an answer to it. It is refreshinig to see someone try, even if the answer is stick your head in the sand. That is at least doing something.

  27. on 02 Aug 2010 at 01:2127Jody Sweeney

    I am not sticking my head in the sand, but I willcertainly try to make an informed decision based on ALL of the data that can be obtained, not just anecdotal data that supports only one theory. The fact is that Congressman King presented anecdotal facts that are just not born by the truth. Every statistic in the etherworld points to either no data that identifies who the offenders are, or to Congressman King’s 15%. No other data exists to support your theory.

  28. on 02 Aug 2010 at 06:3228apo wichiapi

    Jody – the reason I didn’t mention it is because I have seen exactly what happened to you when you stated the FACTS happen before – they are not interested in facts..

    what is funnier is to distract them with how long they lived abroad and iron bars on windows…..

    they have little minds, therfore easliy distracted away from the thread of their little Breitbart “story”

    there, my nefarious plot has been unveiled….and it worked – i got them mired in the weeds LOL

    but anon and Jody… good work

  29. on 02 Aug 2010 at 06:4029apo wichiapi

    anon and Jody – i dont know if you can see it yet but the first post on this story was mine with a link to a site that has the facts and dispells myths and mis-truths ike this

    however it has been “awaiting moderation” for days now – they can’t stand the truth – unless its THEIR version of the truth

    but be prepared for that baloney and LOTS of it in here

  30. on 02 Aug 2010 at 08:4930Rick

    I used to live in Miami- nobody I knew had bars on their windows. Of course, I didn’t live in the ghetto, where they are prevalent as a crime deterrent.

  31. on 02 Aug 2010 at 09:1731anon

    While some are busy cracking down on the small blue collar people, I remain committed to cracking down on the big white collar guys first.

    A group of doctors and medical suppliers recently rounded up arrested for allegedly scamming Medicare of $150 million. This rounded of illegal doctors who crossed the moral ethical borders of the USA was spurred on by new programs at Health and Human Services aimed at cracking down on insurance fraud. Insurance fraud rampant in the medical profession is said to cost us more than illegal immigration. Certainly more than the cost of the health care being administered to illegal immigrants. Way way more.

    So while you concentrate on stepping on ants, I will keep my eye on the vultures and hyenas who every day illegally cross the borders of American ethics.

  32. on 02 Aug 2010 at 09:4132apo wichiapi

    again – here’s Rick – mired in the weeds

  33. on 02 Aug 2010 at 10:5233Rick

    I used to live in Miami. So, unlike you, I have first-hand experience.

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