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“INDECENT”

Aug 4th, 2009 by MariaEvans

The Lubna-Ahmed al-Hussein trial in the Sudan will resume on September 7th. Who is this woman and what did she do that has her facing 40 lashes for “indecency” in the Sudan? She wore pants in public:

Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein, who waived the immunity she has as an employee of the United Nations Mission in Sudan, will be sentenced Tuesday. She has been charged with violating Article 152 of Sudanese law, which metes out a punishment of 40 lashes for those who commit “an indecent act which violates public morality or wears indecent clothing.”

Hussein was one of a group of 13 women arrested July 3 for wearing trousers in public in Khartoum, the Sudanese capital. Ten of the women agreed to receive 10 lashes as punishment, but Hussein took her case to trial instead, according to the AFP reports.

The hearing today was adjourned as protesters, including some women in…gasp…pants, were met outside of the courthouse by police weilding tear gas and their favorite clubs to beat disobedient women with:

Sudanese police fired tear gas and beat women protesting outside a Sudanese court Tuesday during the trial of a female journalist accused of violating the Islamic dress code by wearing trousers in public.

Police moved in swiftly and dispersed about 50 protesters, mostly women, who were supporting Lubna Hussein, a former U.N. worker facing 40 lashes on the charge of “indecent dressing.” Some of the women demonstrators wore trousers in solidarity with Hussein.

I wonder if this situation came up at the “Beer Summit”?

Posted in Change, Crime, Foreign Policy, United Nations

11 Responses to ““INDECENT””

  1. on 04 Aug 2009 at 12:401Perry

    “Indecent” is the least that can be said about this behavior.

    The problem for Muslims is that this behavior reflects poorly on Islam in general. The moderate Muslim folks must speak out loudly and clearly about this, and act to stop it, otherwise they can not claim to be moderate, or civilized!

    This is like white’s having to speak out against Jim Crow where it still exists.

  2. on 04 Aug 2009 at 14:142David

    This from a regime that allowed its militias to systematically rape Christian women and teens. Women in pants is bad, but women being raped is good public policy. I don’t think I need to express my opinion on that. I can’t figure a way to express my disgust politely anyway.

  3. on 04 Aug 2009 at 16:253Tennesee Walker

    I agree 100% with Perry. Very well said. I must say we have been basically saying the same thing since September 2001. Maybe there really are no Moderate Muslims.

  4. on 04 Aug 2009 at 16:464Ombudsman RSmitty

    Maybe there really are no Moderate Muslims.
    Don’t, just please don’t even consider that as a truism. What we have there is born of a theocracy-type of political environment. The government is religion and the religion is government. When those two combine, they both become way perverted with each other. Not to mention that it comes across as a exclusionist statement.

    “I know Muslims…” Damned right I do. In my work, we have internationals that work with me and many are of a Muslim faith (notice I said ‘a’ and not ‘the’). Turns out, there are Muslims I work with that are US-born citizens, too. While I don’t follow them home to see what their life is like, I know I would certainly consider them as moderates in their views. Especially considering they have kids and both husband AND wife work. That absolutely would not fly under the previously mentioned theocratic rule.

  5. on 04 Aug 2009 at 17:545David Anderson

    I know several Muslims. I have participated in a couple of interfaith groups and know some from the Guard. Most of them are good people. Some seem anti-Semitic, but most of them are solid. I have been in their homes, at their shops and they at my home. The media never seems to ask them for their opinion. When they do send a letter to the editor it is never mentioned in a news story. The only way extreme Islam is going to be stopped is for mainstream Islam to confront it. It can’t happen as effectively without the media. The PC media gives the extremists play, but they rarely balance it. Unfortunately even in the U. S. there is a contingent of mainstream Islam which thinks it would be counter productive to criticize one of its own. That is fine in most cases, but not when you are talking about killing people. Their silence empowers the radical extremists by not giving a counter weight to youth, and it makes it easier to marginalize people like my friends. I second Smitty on that.

    I hope President Obama’s call for the mainstream to assert itself is heeded. His father’s side of the family gives him credibility with some of them. Lets hope we get at least that much good from having this administration. I give him credit for trying. It can seem like the silent majority doesn’t exist. They are the Dilberts of the Islamic world, but they are out there even if it doesn’t seem like it on our TV’s

  6. on 04 Aug 2009 at 19:566Hube

    This is like white’s having to speak out against Jim Crow where it still exists.

    And where does it still exist, Perry?

  7. on 05 Aug 2009 at 10:087noman

    And where does it still exist, Perry?

    Not far from here, Hube. Guess you missed it.

    Want more?

  8. on 05 Aug 2009 at 10:158Hube

    Nice try, noman, but that ain’t Jim Crow. It may be an act of racial discrimination, but it’s not JC.

    Try educating yourself on what Jim Crow was and get back to me.

  9. on 05 Aug 2009 at 10:189noman

    Hube you are pathetic.

  10. on 05 Aug 2009 at 10:1910Hube

    So says the “man” who just made a fool out of himself.

  11. on 05 Aug 2009 at 15:2611Tennessee Walker

    “Maybe there really are no Moderate Muslims.
    Don’t, just please don’t even consider that as a truism”

    Well a day later I can say that my sarcastic and somewhat emotional comment at that moment was not well stated. Like most of you I do know and have worked with Muslims on a variety of projects. I have been told endlessly that the moderate Muslims are the key to changing the terrorism mind set. I have worked in good faith as has my Church for many years to foster understanding. Some days I just get frustrated when I see no progress. I have some specific local examples that I don’t need to vent on here. What I will say is that I do know on a personal basis that there are Muslims who abhor the terrorist image that has some sway. My original comment was more of a reflection of years of frustration on this topic. Perry’s comment struck a chord with me.

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