Comments on: Hoffman Leads Big after weekend poll

By: noman

noman — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:12:14 +0000

I’m guessing Rick is not a utopian Randian, so….

By: Rick

Rick — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:02:00 +0000

Better get used to it, norman. Your little Marist pantywaist in the WH is going to usher-in a Republican majority in ’10; the upcoming political bloodbath is going to make ’94 look like a pinprick. And lets see how much moral fortitude ‘moderate’ Socialist-Democrats have, vis-a-vis healthcare, if Corzine loses. My guess is, not much.

By: noman

noman — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:12 +0000

I was speaking about national platforms, not the NY23 ballot. To the left of Owens there are people like Dennis Kucinich. To find someone to the right of Hoffman, you have to go to utopian Randians, or skinhead militias holed up in Idaho – people who are not (currently) in the Republican Party.

By: David Anderson

David Anderson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:12:20 +0000

Then Owens is an extemist. No one is to the left of him. There are only two candidates, my silly friend. A person like McViegh was an extremist on the right. A person like Ayers is another example on the left. Let’s go to the dictionary for the fun of it and deal with real definitions. of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average:

You can not call a guy who polls show represent the views of 2/3′s of the New York-23 GOP, is backed by former presidential and VP candidates, and is poised to win election while not even on a major party ticket, an extremist. By definition he is not far removed from the average opinion of either the district or the nation. To be extreme, a person has to be a couple of standard deviations from the norm not right smack in the bell curve.

By: noman

noman — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:46:57 +0000

If there is nobody to the right of Hoffman, he is an extremist by definition.

By: David Anderson

David Anderson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:44:28 +0000

There are only two candidates in the race. One is on the left and one is on the right, but both are mainstream in their community. You said if Hoffman is mainstream who represents right wing thought. I am telling you we are mainstream so it is moot question. The big problem with you all on the left is that you think your 20% is the American mainstream. It is not. It may be one mainstream but it is not even the dominate one in the public.

By: noman

noman — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:20:20 +0000

The question was, who is to the right of Hoffman?

By: David Anderson

David Anderson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:56:40 +0000

The right is and always has been mainsteam in America. Conservatives are the plurality of the nation and the majority agree on a majority of issues, tax cuts, marriage, abortion, immigration, limiting government, and a strong national defense. That is why in campaigns liberals try to act like moderates and moderates like conservatives.

Taking information from Pew, Gallup, and Rasmussen. You have to call 40% a mainstream perspective. I accept around 20% as mainstream which means we have 4 mainstreams. Conservatives, populists, liberals, and libertarians.

By: noman

noman — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:46:18 +0000

So if you say Hoffman represents mainstream thought – who is the new right wing?

By: David Anderson

David Anderson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:28:31 +0000

I don’t support bringing more moderates into office. I want conservatives. Moderates get in the way of change and leadership in these troubled times. You need principled leadership. Moderates are more pragmatists going along for the ride. There will always be a place for that. It is part of human nature. What I meant was that moderates will not necessarily abandon ship nor be destructive like liberals in midst. Liberalism is not in America’s best interest and we need to oppose it not welcome it. If it is defeated, moderates will come our way because they like winners.