Hoffman Leads Big after weekend poll
Nov 1st, 2009 by David Anderson
Update: Very good numbers indeed even better than expected for Hoffman. NJ at 11p.
Public Policy will release a new poll soon. It looks like Hoffman by 10 after the endorsement. Poll will be released at 10p and New Jersey will be released at 11p.
In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.
-58% of Republicans think that Scozzafava’s a liberal and that was obviously before her endorsement today.-The Rush Limbaugh effect- Hoffman has a 79 point lead with Rush listeners while Owens has a 6 point lead with people who don’t listen to the show.
Even with Dede’s endorsement of the Democrat Hoffman surges. Conservative ideas are winners. It’s a crying shame that the GOP had to learn this way. Conservatives have said time and time again that moderates and liberals in the party would dump the GOP for a democrat when given the chance.
Question: knowing that Hoffman will caucus with the GOP, will he at some point switch to the GOP or will be remain with the Conservative Party of New York?
In New York, like Delaware, you are allowed fusion tickets. NY invented it actually. The general election will find him on at least the CPNY, GOP, and Right to Life ballot lines. Then he will be reelected as a Republican as well (like Peter King).
I would distinguish between moderates and liberals. There is a big difference between the two. Many moderates are concerned about the direction of the country even though they may disagree with us on a couple of issues. It does not pay for us to do what Nancy Pelosi is doing to the moderates left in her party.
Yes, I am familiar with the fusion candidacy. What I mean is that his primary party affiliation would be CPNY with other parties giving their endorsements as well.
If the GOP wants to bring moderates and keep moderates, why then is there resistance to Mike Castle’s candidacy?
I don’t support bringing more moderates into office. I want conservatives. Moderates get in the way of change and leadership in these troubled times. You need principled leadership. Moderates are more pragmatists going along for the ride. There will always be a place for that. It is part of human nature. What I meant was that moderates will not necessarily abandon ship nor be destructive like liberals in midst. Liberalism is not in America’s best interest and we need to oppose it not welcome it. If it is defeated, moderates will come our way because they like winners.
So if you say Hoffman represents mainstream thought – who is the new right wing?
The right is and always has been mainsteam in America. Conservatives are the plurality of the nation and the majority agree on a majority of issues, tax cuts, marriage, abortion, immigration, limiting government, and a strong national defense. That is why in campaigns liberals try to act like moderates and moderates like conservatives.
Taking information from Pew, Gallup, and Rasmussen. You have to call 40% a mainstream perspective. I accept around 20% as mainstream which means we have 4 mainstreams. Conservatives, populists, liberals, and libertarians.
The question was, who is to the right of Hoffman?
There are only two candidates in the race. One is on the left and one is on the right, but both are mainstream in their community. You said if Hoffman is mainstream who represents right wing thought. I am telling you we are mainstream so it is moot question. The big problem with you all on the left is that you think your 20% is the American mainstream. It is not. It may be one mainstream but it is not even the dominate one in the public.
If there is nobody to the right of Hoffman, he is an extremist by definition.
Then Owens is an extemist. No one is to the left of him. There are only two candidates, my silly friend. A person like McViegh was an extremist on the right. A person like Ayers is another example on the left. Let’s go to the dictionary for the fun of it and deal with real definitions. of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average:
You can not call a guy who polls show represent the views of 2/3′s of the New York-23 GOP, is backed by former presidential and VP candidates, and is poised to win election while not even on a major party ticket, an extremist. By definition he is not far removed from the average opinion of either the district or the nation. To be extreme, a person has to be a couple of standard deviations from the norm not right smack in the bell curve.
I was speaking about national platforms, not the NY23 ballot. To the left of Owens there are people like Dennis Kucinich. To find someone to the right of Hoffman, you have to go to utopian Randians, or skinhead militias holed up in Idaho – people who are not (currently) in the Republican Party.
Better get used to it, norman. Your little Marist pantywaist in the WH is going to usher-in a Republican majority in ’10; the upcoming political bloodbath is going to make ’94 look like a pinprick. And lets see how much moral fortitude ‘moderate’ Socialist-Democrats have, vis-a-vis healthcare, if Corzine loses. My guess is, not much.
I’m guessing Rick is not a utopian Randian, so….