Great Conservative Cook Out
Jul 21st, 2010 by Tennessee Walker
I concur with everyone here that this was an excellent event. As I stated earlier who can quible with free food???
I was surprised that after having a successful event that those who were involved in the event decided to not celebrate the event but to attack a fellow Conservative and Republican. I saw a lot of vitriol aimed at Mrs. Rollins for having the temerity to show up. Personally, I thought she showed class by showing up at an event that was not aimed at promoting her.
Make no mistake, this event was the Glen Urquhart show. The guest speaker was secured by the Urquhart team. George Allen has made other Delaware visits such as at the Vance Phillips’ Crab Feast (Vance is The Urquhart Campaign Chairman) . Glen Urquhart was given the prime time speaking slot of 6 pm and the honor of introducing a national figure who subsequently endorsed Glen. As mentioned earlier, the room was festooned with Urquhart Balloons and every other sign on the way in through the driveway was an Urquhart sign. And personally, I have no Problem with any of this.
Glen Urquhart’s campaign and Vance Phillips did the Lion’s share of the work in putting this event together. They lined up a speaker, they also appear to have given major financing to get this done. Under these circumstances It makes no sense for the candidate not to take advantage of his efforts. I also have no qualms about the Urquhart Campaign excluding Michelle Rollins and this by the way is exactly what happenned.
Politics is not a no contact sport. If Glen Urquhart is going to sponsor an event why should he give his opponent a forum??
I have no problem with a politician playing politics.
What I do have a problem with and this is my MAIN POINT of posting, is the subsequent bashing of Rollins for being a cheap skate and gate crasher. I am offended by this because I have found out it is not true although those associated with this event began this smear immediately after the event.
It took me some time and phone calls to discover that Michelle Rollins offered to be a sponsor for this event. The Rollins team made the attempt and I have the names of those involved. The Rollins team was not allowed to be a sponsor based on what the contact said that “There were no more Tables left. ” One might buy this if you didn’t realize that half of the sponsors listed on the flyer had no tables. What reputable volunteer organization turns down an offer for funds unless there is another agenda?
Now I have read about 4 different versions of why Rollins was excluded. As I stated earlier, I have no problem with Urquhart excluding Rollins from his show. It takes sharp elbows to play in politics and I notice Rollins did not complain.
I have a serious problem with the concerted effort to portray Rollins as a cheap skate and party crasher. This is a lie. The Rollins Campaign reached out to help with this event’s expenses. The perpetuation of this lie by those associated with this event warrants at the least a correction and in certain cases an apology.
I think there was mostly celebration. Most of the back and forth was due to dogged complaints from a few people who believe right conservatives don’t have the same rights any other group does.
As I said from the beginning this was not the event for her to be invited to. If she wants the stage that can be arranged.
If your claims are correct, she really did crash the party. I suggest reading Slaven Says for an inside account. Honestly, I don’t think itmatyers. I sort of wish Bill didn’t get this started with a throw away line on wgmd blog. It’s Just a distraction.,
Bill Colley said that the Rollins people showed up, I must suppose, unexpectedly. Cause as TW points out, the Rollins people DID try to get a table BEFORE the event.
Again, according to Bill Colley, the Rollins people showed up and set their stuff down on Bodenweiser’s table. Somebody told them they couldn’t do this but they said that Colin Bonini said it was okay.
TW, you’re going to great lengths to defend these folks who, well goodness gracious they wouldn’t lie to you or anything. But if they really did call up in advance and were NOT given a table, even if they were given a plethora of various excuses…so they show up anyway…fine, fine folk that they are. I admire greatly folks who show up uninvited, distinctly and clearly, to an event.
I mean, maybe Colin Bonini did say it was okay. Maybe somebody asked him and he didn’t know what was going on.
Sounds to me like the fine, fine Rollins folks, who would never lie dear Lord would they, decided to barge in on the event.
This is the story Bill Colley told on the air, per my husband who heard it.
Now maybe the Rollins people were perfectly willing to pay a share for the cost but point being, they were denied a table and if they did show up unannounced with elbows aplenty, well too late to pay for anything. Hence the cheapskate title, which maybe they don’t deserve.
Of course, Bill Colley could have it wrong, I dunno. I only know what he said on the air.
As for me, sounds to me like the Rollins people don’t deserve any great admiration. Damn. They were NOT invited.
But they came anyway…God love and admire them all.
how do you “not invite” someone to an event that is open to the public and free.?.?.?
can’t have your cake and eat it too!
Michele Rollins is about as conservative as Barack Obama.
Vance Phillips, as I understand, stepped down as Urquhart Chairman….but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story TW…
Michele Rollins I’m sure is not innocent in this regard but your defense of her is to be expected. Far be it from Tennessee Walker to pick the most liberal Republican to back from here to hell and back again. Weeks before the event the tables were sold out. That Rollins got to the party late isn’t anyone’s problem but her own. No one could confuse Madame Billions with being cheap, I’m SURE she’s willing to buy anything (including News Journal coverage…Read Dialouge Delaware lately?) for whatever it costs if it gets her elected.
Of the two RINOs in this race, Rollins is the least offensive but that’s only because she hasn’t had the opportunity to vote with the Democrats in D.C. Mr. Urquhart is by no means perfect, no one is, but he is believable and his record and past are remarkably clean. By contrast, Madame Rollins has questionable income from TARP recipient banks, a residence in another country and a history of working with that countries banking interests in ways that could siphon business away from Delaware and America. I’m not sure that I can understand supporting her over someone who was appointed by Reagan and who has worked in Sussex County building the infrastructure necessary for growth.
David,
By your own words on facebook (see below), you say she refused to sponsor it. Yet when she called to ask to sponsor it, she was told that sponsorships were closed. Which is it? You can’t play it both ways.
David Anderson I loved the The Great Conservative cookout. I thank the News Journal for covering it. I know they are taking a deserved hit for the picture of the one candidate who refused to sponsor it, but at least they covered it fairly and gave it front page staus. The actual article was well written. They can come back to any…
Shirley Vandever
)). Which, if any of these statements are true?
Dave, I’m confused. If you are referring to Rollins, then there are two different stories. You say “refused to spnsor it”, yet the letter to the editor posted by De Con Servative says she wasn’t offerent a sponsorship and essentially “crashed” the event. A commentor on the News Journal story said she paid for the whole thing
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The first two were. The event was to showcase conservatism. An invite was not extended to my knowledge. The ad and blogs had contact info. Several candidates not solicited responded. She could have done like a few and sign up on site . The third is inaccurate.
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Maybe the organizers of the event should change their name to the Delaware Confused Coalition because they can’t seem to get their story straight.
You can’t refuse to do something you aren’t allowed to do, that makes no sense. It was a public event, you can’t crash a public event by showing up either. I’m sorry but it is getting preposterous. Urquhart held a heck of an event for himself AND at least allegedly for conservatives. The event was OPEN to the public, honestly right now this bashing of Rollins looks childish. If she showed up and started heckling or something then yeah maybe you could say she crashed it, but that didn’t happen she attended an open event for conservatives that should be accepting of those with differing opinions and allowing the people there to choose. Not saying she should have been given a speaking platform or anything like that, just that you guys should stop lying to people about her.
PS. Urquhart’s RV is awesome, and I think it has a PA system as well which if that is true makes it even more awesome.
The complaint is in trying to speak not dropping by. Its no big deal. I am reading some details that I and apparently others never heard which is fine. It means coordination didn’t exist.
“Mr. Urquhart is by no means perfect, no one is, but he is believable and his record and past are remarkably clean.”
His past? Clean? Have you ever spoken to anyone in Sussex County who’s done business with him? He is as reviled in Sussex for his business ethics as Castle is for his voting record.
“worked in Sussex County building the infrastructure necessary for growth.”
Please tell me that you’re joking. He wanted to build an entire town in a Level IV area where there was no infrastructure, and in the end he built nothing. I don’t know that he ever built anything in Sussex County in the few years he’s lived here since moving from Virginia to his multimillion-dollar oceanfront mansion. Feel free to spin away, but facts are stubborn things.
David
So what you said on Facebook is not what you meant or are now complaining about? Now I’m really confused.
““Mr. Urquhart is by no means perfect, no one is, but he is believable and his record and past are remarkably clean.”
His past? Clean? Have you ever spoken to anyone in Sussex County who’s done business with him? He is as reviled in Sussex for his business ethics as Castle is for his voting record.”
Many here have talked directly with individuals who have had business dealings in Sussex with Mr. Urquhart. They echo your comments.
David, Cookie points out that on your Facebook Page you have said that one candidate pictured (Mishelle Rollins) refused to sponsor this event. When will you come clean and admit that this statement is false???
Answer from Me: When she came, did she go to Lynn and ask to sponsor it? Was she refused or did she not offer? Not offering is refusing to sponsor the event. I will gladly retract that one statement if you tell me when and who refused her. I do not have a problem with that because the reason she was not invited is that she is not a conservative, but I still have not a shred of evidence that she contacted the group and was refused. If that is true, than apparently Colley, Slavin, and I are all in the dark.
It is time for planning the next event, I will love to see it. I stand by that she really didn’t belong there. She was not invited. She had every right as an American to show up just like Glen has the right to show up to the Sessions event money in hand. Protocol would say that he should not. Still as I said this event was different because it was a multi candidate event. She knows that she will need these folks in the future so coming by and shaking hands was a positive. I did not hear complaints geared on that. Trying to speak, when and where is that ever done?
If she thinks this is in error and she believes she is the true conservative, the DCC will gladly get her a forum to debate Urquhart. She needs to get a cosponsor friendly to her, the party, log cabin Republicans, or whomever so that there can be no complaint or the DCC will gladly get the venue and the media can run it with no involvement whatsoever from the group.
Rollins came to an event that was publicized and open to all comers. She obviously has some cajones. I like that! While she may not be the conservative standard bearer, she has carried the GOP water for many years and deserves a level of respect. Over the vast amount of years it took for many on this forum to find their political voice Rollins was fighting the fight. She pissed in the good old boys Cheerios, and I’m loving it. If you can’t pee with the big dogs, don’t run with them!
“I am reading some details that I and apparently others never heard which is fine. It means coordination didn’t exist.”
So if the candidate YOU’RE WORKING FOR organized this whole thing, and you yourself admit it wasn’t coordinated, why should voters trust him with the reins of government?
Did Rollins indeed refuse to sponsor it? Or were you just being slippery with the facts?
Let’s hope that you all have the same admiration for Mr. Urquhart when he shows up at a function for which he was not invited…say a meet and greet with Michelle Rollins.
Class is not necessarily about money it would seem. Folks with class have enough sense not to go where they’re obviously not wanted.
NEVER. Its Davids blog and hes never wrong.
“If you can’t pee with the big dogs, don’t run with them!”
While I like your analogy, I just don’t see Rollins peeing with the Big Dogs. On the other Hand I was always a huge fan of Bill Roth’s Saint Bernards.
For the Record on the umpteenth time. I loved this event, we need to do this more often. I happen to know for a fact that Rollins attempted to be a sponsor. I think it is unfair to excorciate her for non sponsorship when she tried to be a sponsor.
So far Pat Fish and Evan Q have criticisized me for telling the truth. This says more about them than anything I can say.
Glen Urquhart paid for his day in the sun. I have already said he is entitled to that since he paid the freight. My point was why pile on after that???
“My point was why pile on after that???”
Because once members of any group – liberals, conservatives, Martians – start wrapping themselves in the Mantle of Righteousness, they begin to believe their own rhetoric. Only They can be right. Only They know the key to salvation, through their Chosen One. Everyone else is condemned to the Pit of Eternal Flame.
What Glen’s folks are feeling right now is the same bullcrap emotion that Al Gore’s followers felt when his movie first came out. Complete and total priggishness that unleashes itself on the world.
“Did Rollins indeed refuse to sponsor it? Or were you just being slippery with the facts?”
The facts are Rollins offered to be a sponsor. One can get a number of reasons why she was declined. Her representatives were told that there were no tables available. Rollins was willing to be a sponsor without a table. This option was not offered to her.
I have the facts including those who were contacted. David and the Delaware Conservative Coalition refuse to even give the name of their organizers. So much for transparency.
NOTE from me: Respectfully my friend, do we not talk an average of 3 times a week? If you wanted names, I would be glad to share them if you actually ask. It is not a state secret. Some people just don’t want publication. You obviously know some from the public discussion. In fact the organizations sponsoring it actually organized it. That was on all of the public adversitising including this site.
Pat I must have missed when this became a meet and greet for Urquhart…. I thought this was a conservative cookout open to the general public, as far as the ludicrous “not being wanted” statement… well I think it is a bit disconcerting that you are speaking for over 1000 people right now. It is arrogant, judgmental and quite frankly makes you sound like a 5 year old deciding who sits at what lunch table.
“quite frankly makes you sound like a 5 year old deciding who sits at what lunch table.”
Uhh… that’s what Pat normally sounds like
Allow me to apply the soothing balm of truth. Come November all DE Republicans will be voting for Rollins, like the good, obedient children they are.
When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging. The Great Conservative Cookout was obviously deceptively mislabeled as everyone supposedly “in the know” acknowledges it was an Urquhart pep rally. Rollins trumped you, and you don’t like it. Are all of you righteous conservatives that afraid of conflicting ideas that you feel it is okay to suppress them? Michelle Rollins wouldn’t come to an advertised Urquhart event, and that’s where your deception bit you in the pants. You must have a tenuous hold on your base if you are that afraid of the competition. My advice is to let it go, lick your wounds, and move on. This is another Team Urquhart gaffe.
[...] like primaries, but this “Great Conservative Freak Out” engineered by Urquhart (sp?) and Colley stabs GOP hopes for November in the eyes. AND I LOVE IT [...]
TW
As you say, election politics is a contact sport especially this election where tempers flare at the touch of a hat.
I have no problem with Urquhart sponsoring the event but I do have a problem with him hiding that fact and acting like he didn’t sponsor anything. The Delaware Conservative Coalition also hid that fact for fear of not getting such a turnout. In short, I feel hoodwinked but will certainly get over it.
I believe that it was in exceptionally bad taste to not invite Michele Rollins and I also believe she showed a lot of class by showing up.
It shows a complete lack of class on Urquy’s part to not invite her.
If he is elected, I believe we can expect these same backroom tactics and lack of class. I believe his seat would be for sale to the highest bidder.
ahhh good old Glen – up to his usual tricks – someone should check the court dockets and look at the number of lawsuits with his name on them
public access information – anyone can do it – “clean hands” I think not
Glen is doing what Glen has always done – thrown Reagan’s name around and paid piles of cash out to make himself look good and buy votes..
he is long on mouth and short on delivery – altho if I was a liberal I would be praying that Glen sweeps it – knowing his past tactics like I do – he would be a no show for committees and votes – and asleep at the wheel – and the Left would have a cake walk
Rollins is a fighter and not one to be left behind or out-side
Wrong, the rally was a conservative rally, designed to support Conservatives. That was plain to see from being there and the media coverage of it. The organization is a long term coaliton that will be around not just this election but 2012 and members hope beyond. No one is afraid of hearing ideas. We hear them all the time.
The point of the meeting was not a candidates night of conservatives and liberals, Republican and Democrats. It was to highlight the strength of the conservative cause and rally people to it. Did you notice only two candidates had opponents who were there Urquhart and Wangen as well as Booth and Bodenwiser? Why some insist on focusing on one candidate is puzzling. You may disagree with who is the most conservative congressional candidate, but I don’t know on what basis when you look at issue positions and endorsements. We have had a months to hear from the candidates as activists. Now is the time to get behind them.
If the Rollins people all of a sudden have yet another set of positions different from the ones put out previously, that would not surprise me.
Let’s have a debate and let everyone hear it. I call for the Rollins camp to propose a sponsor and venue for one. Then the event could be cosponsored and both sides could agree to a format. I would love to see an Oxford style debate with previously agreed to topics and time frames. No bias, no panels, just the candidates sharing with us and each other with a moderator to keep it moving.
Three questions.
What building or development can Glen do past or present without County approval? Developers can have ideas but without financing and government approval they are only ideas.
What ethics shortcomings are we talking about with Glen. Be specific. Perhaps someone should look into the bait and switch at the Brandywine Town Center was. A total fraud to the community.
Is there anything preventing Ms. Rollins from hosting/staging her own Conservative Cook Out or similar event in August? Let’s see if that event occurs.
As for those who complain about how Glen spends his money I have to ask whose money is it? Yours or his?
Mike Protack
Ethics?? Mr Protack – coming from you??
Ok here is an issue – Vance Phillips, chair of the Sussex County Council, in a position to sway his fellow members on developments (like Issac’s glan) an Urqhart project, being the campaign manager for Glen.
That being said – there was obviously a relationship between the two men BEFORE glen asked VANCE to manage his campaign – how deep and for how long?…..Im am sure plenty others know.
no matter how you slice it – that one stinks
so you mind your New Castle business and don;t worry about us poor dumb Sussex Countians who wouldn’t understand a percieved ethics violation if it bit us
Mike
Yes it is his money and he uses it to buy votes and grease palms. I walked into the Delaware Conservative Coalition’s meeting when his advance man, Vance Phillips was offering to pay the freight for the “Great Cookout.”
Urquhart had paid delegates on his staff at the convention, our good man Vance was one of many of them.. That taints the whole process of a convention and causes it to be invalid. As somebody said earlier, Urquy his long on mouth and money and short on delivery.
I am of the opinion that he wouldn’t be three months in office before he doubled his wealth with backroom deasl and selling his vote to the highest bidder. In short, I don’t trust him and won’t support him or vote for him.
With Rollins, I believe she is at least honest and would do the job honestly.
That being said – there was obviously a relationship between the two men BEFORE glen asked VANCE to manage his campaign – how deep and for how long?…..Im am sure plenty others know.
Duh…gee, maybe he should have hired a total stranger.
Agreed, I think they said from the beginning that they had trust in each other. Some of this borders on the inane and other parts just reside there.
oh and how one spends their money is irrelevant – but what they are buying or attempting to buy – there is the issue
buying food, clothes, life necessities etc – fine
buying cocaine and drugs – not so good
buying votes and an election – well that just dont look good – does it MIKE?
WindJammer, there is no one who benefited from Rollins wealth at the Convention? None of the delegates had received donations from her. She had no paid staff? The party did not get donations from her and those she raised money from which allowed money to go to top officials?
There is nothing wrong with any of it. I just wonder how with Ms. Rollins it is honest and wonderful and with Mr. Urquhart it is sleazy for the same thing.
You say that he would double his wealth with a backroom deal because he is generous. Who has a record of getting near exclusive state contracts (only the 3 tracks) for gaming to multiply their money? The Rollins family
Who is using government to keep the monopoly?
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You are a good guy, and I have no issue with you supporting whomever, but please try not to make things up.
Both candidates have pluses and minuses and I will be pleased to support one of them after the primary. Will you join with me in supporting the winner and uniting the party?
Evan Q said, “Michele Rollins is about as conservative as Barack Obama.”
Those of you who are old enough, and have lived in Delaware long enough to remember, know that Michelle Rollins was married to one of, if not the most influential conservative in the history of the state, and the country.
Just because we have carpetbaggers like Bill Colley, who know nothing of the history of the state saying she is some kind of country club liberal, doesn’t make it true.
David, I agree with your point of a debate and format. Put them both on stage and let them have to it. Rather than the peanut gallery expressing what the candidates stand for, let them do it themselves and be held accountable to their own words.
As for Windjammer’s observation, the freight was already paid for. There was however a need to buy more food. There was food only for 750 and it turned out we needed 1200 plates. Phillips and Urquhart were stepping up. Considering their advance woman took over decorating the hall that seemed like the least they could do.
Generousity and helping friends is now a vice to one person.
Trying to call it vote buying when no one was conditioned for a meal to do anything but listen (not even required to do that as one could get the food and leave) is frankly the slilliest thing he ever wrote here. He usually agree or disagree is one of the more interesting commenters. I don’t think that even needs to be addressed.
FBH, I agree that is hyperbole by Evan. I do not think he was serious. He was making a point that she has some positions at odds with the movement. Anyone who listens to her knows that she is sincerely grappling with making this country a better place. She is a good woman and I am sure she will be supporting the winner of the primary whether it is Mr. Urquhart, herself or Mrs. Izzo.
What has Michele Rollins done for conservatism? Try GOPAC, which might as well be called the John & Michele Rollins Foundation for Conservative Thought. GOPAC launched the 1994 Takeover and the Contract with America, and was a major driving force for conservatism in the post-Reagan, pre-1994 era. John & Michele Rollins footed most of the bill, when they didn’t have to do so. So she is a landmark figure for advancing the cause of the right over the last 30 years. She deserves more respect than she’s been getting from conservatives.
http://www.gopac.org/about/default.aspx
David Anderson I loved the The Great Conservative cookout. I thank the News Journal for covering it. I know they are taking a deserved hit for the picture of the one candidate who refused to sponsor it, but at least they covered it fairly and gave it front page staus. The actual article was well written. They can come back to any…
So David, you are still saying she refused to sponsor it?
Shirley Vandever
Dave, I’m confused. If you are referring to Rollins, then there are two different stories. You say “refused to spnsor it”, yet the letter to the editor posted by De Con Servative says she wasn’t offerent a sponsorship and essentially “crashed” the event. A commentor on the News Journal story said she paid for the whole thing )). Which, if any of these statements are true?
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The first two were. The event was to showcase conservatism. An invite was not extended to my knowledge. The ad and blogs had contact info. Several candidates not solicited responded. She could have done like a few and sign up on site . The third is inaccurate.
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So David, you are saying she was told she was not invited and you are saying she did not contact DCC or sign up on the site? All that I am asking for is answers for these questions.
David
Nobody wants a democrat in the congressional seat in Nov. I just want to be honestly represented. I am tired of people trying to buy an election, however it seems to be one of the facts of life but I don’t have to like it..
I never made up anything that I wrote in this blog. I was there observing all the things that I spoke of with pen in hand. I saw you there also, we just observed it differently.
It was obviously an Urquhart rally and anybody that can’t see that is either blind or—- oh, I’ll just be kind, —- just doesn’t know politics.
I agree with TW, election politics, this season is a serious bloodsport and it’s going to get nastier.
The one thing that I do like about Urquhart is that he is not a quitter. The main thing that I question about him are his Machiavellian tactics to achieve his ends. He will do or say anything and I mean anything to win and that bothers me.
David,
I guess your official stance is that she refused to pay to be a sponsor, she was told that she was not invited to a picnic that everyone was invited to, and that she is a gate-crasher.
Vance Phillips, as I understand, stepped down as Urquhart Chairman
I guess if you can’t stand the heat … well y’all know the rest.
As opposed to candidates who think they need to go out and lose but educate the populous, WJ? We have the Libertarians for that.
Cookie scroll back up. I noted on one of your posts my answer. It does not matter either way, The first half said that she was not wanted. if someone followed up and refused her because the slots were filled by the time she was able to contact on her own, so be it. Give that person a star.
But I still have no evidence she was refused. Give me a time frame or person who refused her. Then I will retract that. Three people involved have made public statements including two at every meeting. None believed that was the case. It may have been a minor detail never passed along. (Saying no more availability is not a big statement of policy.) In that case I would gladly retract that one statement.
Cookie
Vance is still Urquhart’s chairman but he is now unpaid because he is running for re-election as a county councilman. That show a little integrity. I spoke with him at the cookout. I didn’t make that up.
Vance never intended to be campaign manager and was always met to be a senior advisor. Chairman allows him to do just that. I guess you missed the June press release which explained the day to day shift to Paul Protic who ran Chris Smith’s campaign and was until recently the chief of staff for a Congressman. Vance’s job was to advise and find a full time professional. He did. Now he is still involved, but he is able to tend his farm and campaign for his own seat which he was asked to do by many to avoid us losing it. When I spoke to Vance in January, he was thinking of retiring from County Council which I am glad that he reconsidered.
You know something in my gut told me not to go to this picnic and after all had been reported, I am glad I did not.
Too bad, even the slight critics enjoyed it. It was as Tennessee put it.
The little bit of sniping is just political positioning on both sides. Don’t let it distract from the fact the Conservative movement was energized and a lot of candidates left with a beefed up organization. The conservative candidates across Kent and Sussex as well as the statewide candidates and people like Rep. Lavelle who networked, received a great boost. It did more for party building according to one observer who is on the GOP state committee than the party has done for itself in 10 years. His quote not mine. It was great.
In today’s political environment, you can’t do anything without someone being unhappy or wanting to spin it. That goes with the turf.
Just because Michele Rollins may have been married to a conservative, does not make herself a conservative.
She has to prove her conservative credentials by her professing HER beliefs, and visions. Based on what she has stated thus far in this campaign she is not a conservative.
With what we are facing right now, we don’t just need a Republican. We need a fiscal, social and national security conservative.
Our country is reeling financially, is in moral decay and we are still under constant threat from those that want to harm our infrastructure and our citizens.
Wake up, before it’s too late.
“In today’s political environment, you can’t do anything without someone being unhappy or wanting to spin it. That goes with the turf.”
Agreed there are people out there who will criticize and smear a candidate that shows up at a public event.
As always the biggest mouths come from anonymous and uninformed cowards.
To Apo Whichiapi, I assume you have specific ethics complaints you can offer to all? You and I both know you do not.
To get respect from conservatives you have to hold conservative views.
Obviously, the cookout was a success as those who have nothing to say of merit complain endlessly.
And as always is the case those who throw out barbs never offer specifics or answer questions.
You know you have won the argument when someone claims turf like being from Sussex gives you the right to pontificate in the dark about all things important.
Lastly, I look forward to the August version of the Conservative Cookout sponsored by Ms. Rollins. Will it happen?
Mike Protack
“As opposed to candidates who think they need to go out and lose but educate the populous, WJ? We have the Libertarians for that.”
LOL! So true.
Can we do it after Labor day? We need some break. Mike, I know you are kidding, but after a toss away line by Bill Colley on the blog was pounced on by the allies of Ms. Rollins to bash the orgainization, I doubt they would take her money or help if offered. They would be glad to give her the microphone along with Mrs. Izzo and Mr. Urquhart for a debate. I am not holding my breath for that one. I think the concept is good though that should be picked up by someone.
Bow down, everyone. Pink Postcard Protack, the Zippy Chippy of Delaware Politics, has spoken.
As I recall, you were not so critical of the anonymous when the anonymous was you, router boy.
Note from me: That was highly disputed with other analysis including proof that Mr. Protack was flying out of the area when it was alleged that some of the details were arranged. (I saw it myself.) Unless Dave and Smitty had their dates wrong or he had Delta doctor his schedule, I think there is serious doubt. Other parts that say he used some phrases on the blogs which were picked up by the postcard guy are a big so what. Those were not the phrases that offended us. It really is time to move on. It is at best a circumstantial allegation with facts produced that rebut it. People will believe what they want on both sides, most don’t care. Count me as one who is bored of it and doesn’t care.
“but after a toss away line by Bill Colley on the blog was pounced on by the allies of Ms. Rollins to bash the orgainization,”
Hello David, Now this is not what happenned. If it were one throw away line then I would have never initiated this post. The fact is there has been a lot more people from the DCC (not to be confused with the Delaware Correctional Center just north of Smyrna) or whatever organization publicly spreading the lie that Michelle Rollins “refused” to sponsor this event. I heard it straight from some people and of course this very website posted a letter to the News Journal stating that Rollins “Crashed” this event. This was not one throw away line. It is an orchestrated smear campaign.
Here is what you have on YOUR facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1255749513&ref=ts
“I loved the The Great Conservative cookout. I thank the News Journal for covering it. I know they are taking a deserved hit for the picture of the one candidate who refused to sponsor it.”
You yourself state that Rollins “refused” to be a sponsor and yet you you can’t produce one person to say that Rollins was offered a sponsorship and turned it down.
Refused to sponsor it means that she refused to sponsor it. She came and did not offer to sponsor it. How can I be clearer? Imagine the good will she would have gotten when the food was running low to kick in an hundred bucks in exchange for recognition and a quick greeting. It was almost a good poltical move, but they missed an opportunity. Still they got decent press out of it which is a pretty good gift. This sour grapes is a little counter productive.
You are telling me that she offered before the event. I do not know that to be true as I have not a shred of evidence to back that at this time, but I doubt they would make it up. If that were true, you wonder why they would show up. That would make that one phrase inoperative. It should be was not a sponsor in that case. No smear intended. The people responded because of the comdenation of Colley. We were merely responding to the attack on him.
Do you also want to go to WGMD and elsewhere and post a copy my praise of her for showing chuzpah? How about my saying she is a good woman who has done a lot in the community from supporting a hospital to the performing arts? If that is smearing someone, smear me.
So, when is the Rollin’s Conservative Cookout?
As for anontoo, the latest anonymous and uninformed coward keep talking about something you know nothing about.
I enjoy the laugh about the post cards. When that drama was cooked up by two nutcases I offered my phone line records, both my home computers , fingerprints etc and anything else required. Of course the offer was not taken and instead two total failures in life went about spreading a story with no foundation or substance.
Unlike most of the anonymous cowards on the blogs I have never posted anything without my name attached to the post.
Stay anonymous, it suits you very well.
So when is the next Conservative Cookout?
Mike Protack
“Of course the offer was not taken and instead two total failures in life went about spreading a story with no foundation or substance.”
Precious. Zippy Chippy is calling other people failures. And as I recall, they didn’t need your records. They had your IP address.
Have fun losing again.
No, they did not. That is why they could produce nothing and neither can you.
As I have stated but you are too slow to understand, the communications attributed to me and the so called IP address, I can do many things but flying an airplane at .80 Mach at 35,000 feet is inconsistent with home or business computer use at the same time.
My schedule record is monitored and recorded by the FAA. Perhaps you did not know the airlines are regulated under the FAA Part 121 FAR’s. Like your meager intelligence level the schedule can’t be altered.
Again, stay anonymous, stay uninformed and irrelevant. When you have a bit of courage say your name, produce some facts and make a case. Otherwise, do what you do best-nothing. Perhaps you will find the manhood to stand up and be counted, but you and I know you never will.
Mike Protack
I am a bit new to Delaware and very new to political life here. To make it short I know why many in the GOP harbor resentments against Mike Protack, he speaks up and is not locked into the incompetent group of people who have led the GOP down the road of ruin.
It seems you have to be rich or tied to the duPonts to get anywhere in the Delaware GOP. Think about it. Wasn’t somebody named Wedo who had never lived in delaware going to run for Congress? He did not so instead Rollins who lives here only half the time is running? Is it true she got the nomination because of all the money she spread around?
The reality is the Democrats have their hands out and so does the GOP establishment. I have not met one single GOP leader who stood for anything that has anything to do with reality.
I saw Mike at the two tea parties and did a nice job saying what had to be said. The ritual of attacks from the people on this blog are pretty sad. I mean Mike’s opponent is a state employee drawing a big state check going to meetings with groups as the person from the state while she is also a candidate. Talk about conflict of interest. Worse, she is married to the Lofink guy who ripped off the state for a DelTech Job and a free education according to the News Journal.
Lady Patriot you certainly know a lot of facts for a newbie. What Kinko’s are you e-mailing from?
I’m almost done here.
I will summarize.
First, the Rollins group caught wind of this event, how could they not? Somebody from there called up and tried to get a table.
Somebody from the DCC didn’t come right out and say “you’re not invited.” This is my version of events, let’s be clear, not in any way necessarily how it came down. Just an average guy trying to figure it out.
The Rollins people came anyway. They never offered to pay a dime. There WERE given a table.
Finally….for now and until she proves me wrong by morphing into a provable RINO….should Ms. Rollins win the primary and become the GOP candidate, I WILL support her with all my effort. Though I’m terribly unimpressed by her childish name-calling supporters. I’m also not too impressed by her attending an event where she was not welcome but hey, maybe it wasn’t made clear to her. She doesn’t impress me as someone too cheap to pay her share so I must assume the opportunity to pitch in was missed or unclear.
Still, let the record show, should she win the nomination for the GOP, she will be MY candidate.
I will not support her for the primary because I support Urquhart. His halo will likely blind no one but so what’s new under the damn sun? I listened to both of them and decided I like the U guy better. As is my right until Obamer takes it away from me.
Just let the record show that this Sussex county neanderthal will support the candidate as fairly nominated.
Now continue with the name calling.
OMG…I didn’t think anyone could get any more ridiculous or inept as the Democrats. This House race in Delaware is proving me wrong. You Republicans are a jacked-up bunch! And I love it!
I put Mike and one of his sockpuppets in the same house less than an hour apart. That stands. As for fact’s being produced, etc. I know that several of us have offered to produce them as soon as Mike files suit (Discovery is fun!) which should be… any… day… now…
“It seems you have to be rich or tied to the duPonts to get anywhere in the Delaware GOP.”
The last nominee for Governor was neither rich nor tied to the duPonts, and he kicked Zippy Chippy’s tail. Also on the statewide ballot in ’08 were Christine O’Donnell and John Brady, neither of whom have money or ties to the duPonts. So you’re 100% wrong.
“Wasn’t somebody named Wedo who had never lived in delaware going to run for Congress? He did not so instead Rollins who lives here only half the time is running?”
Yeah, and she’s running against Glen Urquhart, who’s lived here for just a handful of years after spending his life in Virginia and Rose Izzo, who’s barely lived here at all. Your point?
Lady Patriot, here are two kinds of people in Delaware: those who know Mike Protack to be a despicable person and those who haven’t known him long enough.
Then why didn’t someone tell Michell Rollins that she was not invited to the conservative picnic? I am absolutely sure that she would not have attended if she was told that she was not invited. The last thing she would want is for people to call her a “gate-crasher.”
I think it’s because the definition of conservative changes weekly.
Frankly I’m getting sick of these fiscally conservative, socially liberal Republicans I keep finding on my doorstep each morning. Poor things don’t have anything except millions in small unmarked bills.
You know something in my gut told me not to go to this picnic and after all had been reported, I am glad I did not.…’concerned’
So are we.
Lady Patriot knows only a small portion of the corruption and insider garbage which goes on in the Delaware GOP.The delaware GOP never supports anyone unless they are tied to the genteel DuPonts in some way and Bill Lee was part and parcel of that crowd. Lee dropped Urquhart when Rollins jumped in as Queen Michele paid off his campaign debt or bar bill whichever is higher, you pick.
o’Donnell was on the ticket in 2008 for one reason, no one at the GOP headquarters cared about her race. Brady left the GOP because he did not get the support promised in 2008 and after the election got booted from his House job.
Anontoo is 100% incorrect but what else is new? He like most of the hacks of the GOP blame guys like Protack for the many many failures of the GOP over the years. You forget those who have been there the entire time, Rakestraw and Castle.
Liberal Geek? What kind of qualifications do you have to have to get that name? A small penis and a low IQ?
Look I’m getting in this conversation late. So just let me say that I met TW at the cookout, and he was much taller than I thought he would be.
I read this blog now and then to recommit myself to not get involved in the GOP in Delaware. Yes, i vote conservative and yes I teach Law but I desire to be around professionals and when the GOP botched the Wharton campaign I knew they were hopeless.
Politics aside, when I read the comment by someone called Liberal Geek I sat up.
These cards I assume would have had some derogatory or injurious terms or accusations on them. If that was the case then the people potentially damaged should be the ones who would as you say “file”. If they did not then again it is assumed there was not a verified source of any libel/slander.
The sender would not be the damaged party but the parties named in the cards and if an issue went to court when so called experts testify the first thing they have to do is establish is their qualifications to render testimony.
“I put Mike and one of his sockpuppets in the same house less than an hour apart. That stands.” No it does not stand and in fact that statement would never get anywhere near a court. An IP address, which can be hidden or altered is not an identity of a person nor is it a statement by an individual.
Fortunately, labeling yourself Liberal Geek does not raise your technical qualifications up to the level of anything noteworthy.
Thanks
Thanks for that legal brief Mike, I mean Lady Patriot, I mean, YHGTBSM, I mean Perry Mason. Welcome to the Muppet, I mean sock puppet show.
Ha! LG! I forgot about the lawsuit. Smitty & I were going to be taken to the cleaners, if I remember correctly. Funny, I haven’t moved since that incident, and I’m still waiting for that process server to deliver the papers to my door.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, folks, sockpuppets and all. Good times.
ANATOO: “Lady Patriot, here are two kinds of people in Delaware: those who know Mike Protack to be a despicable person and those who haven’t known him long enough.”
AHHH – The truth in small sentances – hang around for a rew generations and you will learn Delaware politics.
Lets see we have:
Urquhart, a Johnny-come-lately with money and a mouth and no delivery – throwing money around like water (hey his waste) desperate to massage his ego with political power and could really be related to Machiavelli. I NEVER met anyone who takes less responsibility for his actions that Glen. Children are better trained than that~
Rizzo – investigations for embezzelling from a sick relative and unsuccessful campaigns in her home state with zero ties to Delaware – with a you tube video of her firing a semi-fully automatic (who cares) weapon – what’s with that – her 2nd ammendment solution??
Protack -(not running) who himself won’t answer a question I have asked 5 seperate times – still mouthy – and who panders to whatever crowd he speaks too.
and Rollins – who has been around for many years and done many, many things who actually has a chance of winning – and hey if Bill Colley hates her – she cannot be all that bad!
These are the choices?? its beginning to look like the vote will be for the lesser of several evils – not the best person – but then…that could be the same one…
Perry Mason,
Your poorly written, barely intelligible comment on 70, suggests that you have hung around some lawyers and managed to acquire some lingo. That of course does not make you a lawyer.
Your meandering series of words, that are vainly in search of a point, resemble nothing I have ever read from a competent attorney.
The Next time you decide to embarrass yourself by commenting here, I suggest you find a competent paralegal to do your editing. Obviously, the poor souls that have to endure your instruction are beyond hope in attempting to craft a declarative sentence.
Recently, a candidate stated in court that all he needed to learn about the law he learned on TV. I now know he is one of your students.
It pains me to say my friend is correct. I made a post with the details. No more gate crasher.
Perry, since you’re ‘teaching Law,’ you might want to consider taking a remedial writing course. After reading your ‘brief,’ I must grant your opponents’ petition for summary judgement.