Comments on: Good Values Give Good Results http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/ Where public policy meets common sense Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:29:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: anon http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23188 anon Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:04:32 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23188 <i>Maybe, and it lowered pregnancy rates how? </i> <a href="http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/164/2/152?home" rel="nofollow">Your study</a> didn't measure pregnancy rates; only self-reported sexual behavior. However, national pregnancy rates went up in 2006, correlated with the impact of abstinence-only education. <i>I didn’t do it and neither did most of my friends.</i> This has the ring of truth. Maybe, and it lowered pregnancy rates how?

Your study didn’t measure pregnancy rates; only self-reported sexual behavior.

However, national pregnancy rates went up in 2006, correlated with the impact of abstinence-only education.

I didn’t do it and neither did most of my friends.

This has the ring of truth.

]]> By: David Anderson http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23177 David Anderson Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:49:16 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23177 Maybe, and it lowered pregnancy rates how? It doesn't affect self reporting in anonymous surveys as much as it allows people be comfortable with the truth. I didn't do it and neither did most of my friends. Those who did had no inhibitions about talking about it. When you talk about a 20 point spread, you can't explain it anyway but the programs are very different. You controlled for culture, income, education, and most other factors. You used the same population and got different results. Maybe, and it lowered pregnancy rates how? It doesn’t affect self reporting in anonymous surveys as much as it allows people be comfortable with the truth. I didn’t do it and neither did most of my friends. Those who did had no inhibitions about talking about it. When you talk about a 20 point spread, you can’t explain it anyway but the programs are very different. You controlled for culture, income, education, and most other factors. You used the same population and got different results.

]]> By: anon http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23170 anon Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:38:53 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23170 Abstinence education increases the inhibition against self-reporting your sexual activity. Abstinence education increases the inhibition against self-reporting your sexual activity.

]]> By: David Anderson http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23169 David Anderson Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:18:45 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23169 Then Anon explain the 20% point difference between programs. Then Anon explain the 20% point difference between programs.

]]> By: fightingbluehen http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23151 fightingbluehen Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:05:01 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23151 When i was a teenager up in wilmington we always pursued the Catholic girls for extra curricular activities . Maybe it was the added benefit that they could absolve themselves of guilt with a Hail Mary or two COYW lets get the 3 points today and help send Pompey packing. When i was a teenager up in wilmington we always pursued the Catholic girls for extra curricular activities . Maybe it was the added benefit that they could absolve themselves of guilt with a Hail Mary or two
COYW lets get the 3 points today and help send Pompey packing.

]]> By: iJunk http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23148 iJunk Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:19:06 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23148 I went to a very strict Catholic grade school, very conservative small town high school. I credit that upbringing, the guidance of the priests and nuns, the wholesome nurturing of my community. I never even thought about sex until I was around 24. From then on, once I did break abstinence, I found it to be okay fun. I kept wondering why the Creator would make the desire to reproduce so compulsive that it would be the essence of my being. A lot of guys I knew were suffering the same problem. A tremendous urge to reproduce almost all the time. God does indeed work in mysterious ways. But this desire to reproduce is not good. I don't wish in any way for us to thwart The Heavenly Father's Plan, but . . something does have to be done. With proper indoctrination over a sustained period of time we can break the back of desire to reproduce. Or at least postpone it until we get out of college and have the proper paperwork. Maybe even some kind of genetic modification? Once we cure the sex drive, we can move on to something like hunger. I went to a very strict Catholic grade school, very conservative small town high school. I credit that upbringing, the guidance of the priests and nuns, the wholesome nurturing of my community. I never even thought about sex until I was around 24.

From then on, once I did break abstinence, I found it to be okay fun. I kept wondering why the Creator would make the desire to reproduce so compulsive that it would be the essence of my being. A lot of guys I knew were suffering the same problem. A tremendous urge to reproduce almost all the time. God does indeed work in mysterious ways. But this desire to reproduce is not good.

I don’t wish in any way for us to thwart The Heavenly Father’s Plan, but . . something does have to be done. With proper indoctrination over a sustained period of time we can break the back of desire to reproduce. Or at least postpone it until we get out of college and have the proper paperwork. Maybe even some kind of genetic modification?

Once we cure the sex drive, we can move on to something like hunger.

]]> By: anon http://www.delawarepolitics.net/good-values-give-good-results/comment-page-1/#comment-23146 anon Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:56:39 +0000 http://www.delawarepolitics.net/?p=8327#comment-23146 <i>Students were randomly assigned to go through one of the following: an eight-hour curriculum that encouraged them to delay having sex; an eight-hour program focused on teaching safe sex; an eight- or 12-hour program that did both; or an eight-hour program focused on teaching them other ways to be healthy</i> It's the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect" rel="nofollow">Hawthorne Effect</a>. Kids who might not ordinarily be getting a lot of positive adult attention, suddenly start getting it, and good things happen. Ironically, the study supports not "abstinence-only sex ed," but the need for more enrichment programs inside and outside of school. Midnight basketball, anyone? The real statistics don't lie - the national aggregate data on abortions and teen pregnancy. Students were randomly assigned to go through one of the following: an eight-hour curriculum that encouraged them to delay having sex; an eight-hour program focused on teaching safe sex; an eight- or 12-hour program that did both; or an eight-hour program focused on teaching them other ways to be healthy

It’s the Hawthorne Effect. Kids who might not ordinarily be getting a lot of positive adult attention, suddenly start getting it, and good things happen.

Ironically, the study supports not “abstinence-only sex ed,” but the need for more enrichment programs inside and outside of school. Midnight basketball, anyone?

The real statistics don’t lie – the national aggregate data on abortions and teen pregnancy.

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