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Aug 25th, 2010 by David Anderson

Posted in Election 2010, Glen Urquhart

36 Responses to “Flashback”

on 25 Aug 2010 at 19:041Michael P. Borgia

A star is born! Along with Monet Smith & Heather Lehman, she was the star of the show.
on 25 Aug 2010 at 19:162David Anderson
on 25 Aug 2010 at 19:343Anon

Is this kid for real?
on 25 Aug 2010 at 21:144Tennessee Walker

“Is this kid for real?”

We reported this on May 16th.

http://www.delawarepolitics.net/future-republican-stars-gop-women/

As Mike Borgia said, Monet Smith and Heather Lehman were equally impressive.
on 25 Aug 2010 at 22:515Michael P. Borgia

I was with the Wade campaign that day, but there’s no doubt this young lady might run this party someday. Or perhaps even better.
on 25 Aug 2010 at 23:186Joe Cass

Man. How pathetic! You boys run after T&A like you’ve never been with a real woman! Palin, Bachman, Maklin, O’Donnelll and Coulter. Pardon me, you go after some chicks and a dude now and then. What that stance fellas.
on 25 Aug 2010 at 23:567Michael P. Borgia

Is this guy kidding?

I stopped talking like that when I was seventeen.

Grow up…. If she were a he, we’d feel the same.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 09:228Bill Holt

Mr. Urquhart’s story about the breakup of AT&T leading to the cell phone revolution being an example of “deregulation” and “creative Capitalism” is way off the mark. In reality, the breakup of AT&T is an example of Federal regulatory agencies intruding into the marketplace to enforce regulations, to breakup a monopoly. It was all about big government acting on behalf of free markets. The lawsuit is known as The United States vs. AT&T.

“In the 1970s the Federal Communications Commission suspected that the American Telephone & Telegraph Company was using monopoly profits from its Western Electric subsidiary to subsidize the costs of its network, which was contrary to U.S. antitrust law.”

“The Bell System divestiture, or the breakup of AT&T, was initiated by the filing in 1974 by the U.S. Department of Justice of an antitrust lawsuit against AT&T. The case, United States v. AT&T, led to a settlement finalized on January 8, 1982, under which “Bell System” agreed to divest its local exchange service operating companies, in return for a chance to go into the computer business, AT&T Computer Systems. Effective January 1, 1984, AT&T’s local operations were split into seven independent Regional Holding Companies, also known as Regional Bell Operating Companies (RBOCs), or “Baby Bells”. Afterwards, AT&T, reduced in value by approximately 70%, continued to operate all of its long-distance services, although in the ensuing years it lost portions of its market share to competitors such as MCI and Sprint.”

The breakup of the AT&T monopoly, was an act of government that created tremendous vibrancy, innovation, and wealth creation in the private sector.

As with so many of the modern technological leaps forward, from GPS to cell phones, the communications revolution is the result of public sector private sector synergies. The government launches the satellites, manages the rules of play, the private sector exploits the infrastructure that we the taxpayers built together.

For any candidate to tell folks cell phones have something to do with deregulation is just way wrong. Cell phones, the bandwidths the operate on, the whole deal is made possible by a myriad of very technical government regulations.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 09:519StosselFan

Katelynn was very impressive and strikes me as someone with a bright future. Unfortunately, Urquhart can’t win the general election. If he does win the primary, we’ll see so many clips of his nazi “gaffe” that he’ll be painted as a far far right nut and have no chance come the general.

Remember, while the nazi “gaffe” may be old news to the 200 or so regulars on this blog, it will be breaking news (and quite appalling) to the other 621,000 registered voters in this state. I know most of the folks here will cry foul or are otherwise looking to chalk this up to a rookie mistake early in the campaign, but Carney will hardly be so generous, and for most voters, their first and lasting impression of Urquhart will be that youtube video clip.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 10:3210think123

It would be different if Urquhart’s liberals are nazis was just a “gaffe”. Plus he says he’s proud to be in the company of Limbaugh and Beck for saying nutty shit.

What it really showed was the sickness of intolerance that infects so many of us today. I would guess this candidate, who equates democratic party liberals with godless as Nazis, equates America with tyranny, has a bookshelf filled with all the extremist reading material one might expect from intellectual leaders like Hannity and Coulter:

Deliver Us from Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism Godless : The Church of Liberalism Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism Speechless : Silencing the Christians: How Secular Liberals and Homosexual Activists are Outlawing Christianity (and Judaism) to Force Their Sexual Agenda on America. How To Talk To A Liberal If You Have To.

The mistake Urquhart made was thinking that the “language” of his relatively tiny world of right wing extremism, what you hear heard on Sussex talk radio and Rush Limbaugh was somehow the new reality. He didn’t realize that outside the cult, comparing liberals to godless Nazis sounds insane.

We don’t need more political bigots in Congress. This candidate is not a leader, he’s a follower of celebrity authors. An intellectual groupie.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 11:4211Pepsi

How old is she?
on 26 Aug 2010 at 11:5912Pat Fish

Mr. Holt,

What a surprise to read your discourse on the breakup of AT&T, a government action that affected my life more than most any other.

This is because I worked at Western Electric for fifteen years at the plant on Broening Hiway in Baltimore. At the time I was against the breakup of the monopoloy BECAUSE…well because it was my damn job.

But oh how the breakup of that monopoly almost overnight changed everything. When AT&T ran the show, you went to AT&T for your long distance service and it wasn’t cheap. You of course bought all phone equipment from AT&T, said equipment made by Western Electric, a wholly own subsidiary of AT&T and, heh, the only folks allowed to manufacture stuff for the mighty local phone company, all ALSO owned by AT&T.

I’m not sure what you refer to with the cell phone thing except perhaps Urquhart maybe said the breakup of AT&T brought about the cell phone revolution which you correctly state had nothing to do with AT&T.

I think you should give Urquhart some slack because if AT&T had not been broken up they would surely have held up any sort of cell phone revolution that would have folks carrying around their own damn phones purchased at Radio Shack for want of protecting their own mighty kingdom.

Bearing in mind that I prayed that AT&T would not be broken up and boohoo that Western Electric plant where I worked went out of business and is now a CIA outpost or some such.

AT&T rightly deserved some protection for a while in that it was the company that put up phone lines across the country and underneath the oceans. It was the company that designed and perfected the mighty telephone.

While I sobbed when the monopoly was torn apart, and ultimately lost my job (but did okay, just fine in fact for all my big boohoo), I was utterly amazed that phones could be bought in Radio Shack and new cords (things we made in Baltimore) were only a couple of bucks!

I am still amazed at the great strides made in the telecommunications industry, up to and including cell phones though I know they are about satellites and not ocean cable.

When I was busy worrying about my own turf, much like a member of one of today’s unions in fact, I couldn’t see a broader picture.

I still stand amazed by the great strides of it when I made a living for so long perfecting the monopoly of AT&T.

AT&T too did a bit of okay with breaking up of the monopoly.

It’s one of the biggest life lessons I learned, all up front and personal….the concept of free enterprise, American exceptionalism and competition.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 12:3613Michael P. Borgia

Katelynn is 17 or 18. Not quite sure.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 12:4514Michael P. Borgia

Hey Think…

How long has it been since the secular socialist left produced a “thinker” on a par with Coulter, Beck or even Hannity?

To be honest, I can’t think of one in my lifetime. That’s why secular socialists don’t sell books and can’t keep a radio show on the air.

Rush Limbaugh is listened to by twenty million people a day. Hannity by ten million each day and watched by three million more each night. Ann Coutler has a permanent slot on the NY Times best seller list. Can a bigot do that? I do find one thing amusing. That you can rail about intolerance without mentioning names like Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, Krugman, Dowd and the rest.

This commentary goes beyond silly. If Beck, Coulter, Hannity, et al were anything at all what you’d suggest, the far left media would have run them off the air or out of print a long time ago.

Their refreshing and occassionally blunt intellectual honesty is badly needed. Just because they tell you things the far left would rather you did not know does not make you a bigot.

And to suggest that Glen Urquhart equates America with tyranny is just ignorant. Urquhart repeatedly talks about one theme on the trail. Don’t lose your liberty.

Urquhart does not associate America with tyranny. But socialism is tyranny and we should all join him in speaking out against it.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 14:2715Apo Wichiapi

Mike – you said “Urquhart repeatedly talks about one theme on the trail. Don’t lose your liberty. ”

ok – so does he support “2nd ammendment remedies” as well?? Isn’t that the Tbagz line
we cannot get it constitutionlly so we will get it by :any means necessary:
Sarach – reload!!

yep- they’re impressive alright – and Glen Urquhart has NEVER followed up on a promise he made to any community he commited to in Sussex. I would imagine he won’t follow up on any promises he makes to his voters either
on 26 Aug 2010 at 14:4416Michael P. Borgia

I’m trying to find one grammitcally correct sentence in that rant that I can respond to. Other than your referring to Tea Party members with a sexual innuendo, I really can’t understand any of it.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 15:0617Pat Fish

Isn’t that the Tbagz linewe cannot get it constitutionlly so we will get it by :any means necessary:Sarach – reload!!

The above line….wow. We got colons in there for no reason. Not sure who Sarach is but I’ll guess maybe Sarah Palin. “Tbagz”?

I mean we all make mistakes in our haste but Apo Witchy is a person who deliberately comes on a Conservative site to post liberal claptrap bound to create a stir. You think she’d make more of an effort with what she types.

Or, I dunno, maybe she’s a recent graduate of the public school system.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 15:4518Joe Cass

Mr.Fish. The brains behind O’Donnell.
Mr.Borgia, I had thought much better of you.
“How long has it been since the secular socialist left produced a “thinker” on a par with Coulter, Beck or even Hannity?”
Really? If you set the bar at those three then we have already won.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 15:5319Pepsi

For being so young she sure has a lot of talent.
Best of luck to ye lassie!

Joe Cass, you have to admit, this girl has talent.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 17:1020Pat Fish

Joe Cass sure is impressing me all to hell getting on this Blog and insulting everybody.

What a guy!
on 26 Aug 2010 at 18:2321think123

Pat Fish, your story about working at AT&T was great. You sound like Ben Franklin or Thomas Paine with your willingness to admit that what you thought correct yesterday might not be correct today.

Unfortunately I can’t cut Mr. Urquhart any “slack” on his faulty history lesson about the telecommunications revolution. Mr. Urquhart is confusing anti-trust law with “deregulation”. Turning what happened on it’s head.

In the video, Ms. Dunlap says Mr. Urquhart educated her, captivated her, with his history lesson featuring Ma Bell, an old telephone, and a cell phone. She stated she learned from Mr. Urquhart how the telecommunications revolution was the result of “deregulation” freeing the forces of creative capitalism.

Trouble is, that’s not what happened. Poor Ms. Dunlap goes away with a completely wrongheaded lesson about how American enterprise really works.

The breakup of Ma Bell, the telecommunications revolution that followed, was the result of government “regulation” not government “deregulation”.

In an earlier history lesson Mr. Urguhart asserted it was Hitler and the Nazis who came up with the concept of separating church and State. Now he says Reagan and deregulation led to the cell phone?
on 26 Aug 2010 at 19:1222think123

Michael, you cite Glenn Beck as a deep “thinker”? America’s first black President in office barely one year when Mr. Beck declared The President was a “racist” who had a “deep seated hatred of white people” and that the President was not just “racist”, but a “Marxist”. Beck said President Obama’s intentions were the very same as Stalin, Lenin, Mao, and the rest of histories worst villains. Hannity and Coulter write along those same lines. Now you’re are telling us these celebrity extremists are your idea of “thinkers”?

The entertainment industry knows there’s a huge appetite for sex violence bigotry stupidity. The audience for pornography is way bigger than a Rush Limbaugh. For awhile, Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern were competing for King of Radio. Fart jokes versus fart politics. Trouble for the GOP is that Republicans are confusing entertainers, celebrity extremists, with “thinkers”. C’mon.

The two best selling books of all time are the Koran and Quotations From Chairman Mao (The Little Red Book). What does that tell you about best seller lists?

135 million Americans voted in 2008. That “audience” deserves some respect too.
on 26 Aug 2010 at 22:4923Michael P. Borgia

It tells me nothing about best seller lists because most people in possession of those two books have little choice but to own and read them. Are you really going to try and elevate the worst mass murderer in the history of this world in that way?

Yes, about 135 million Americans voted in 2008. They delivered unto us, Barack Obama. And they deserve respect, yes. As much as those electorates that gave us the likes of Martin Van Buren, James Buchanan, Benjamin Harrison, Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. We do make mistakes. The electorate does deserve respect because they’ve also given us Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, William McKinley, Dwight Eisenhower, Jack Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. And they will eventually send a leader to deliver us from Barack Obama.

Certainly there is an enormous audience for pornography and sex. Most of us have sex and enjoy it. Clearly you are wrong about bigotry and stupidity being in demand because as I’ve already pointed out, no liberal can maintain a national radio audience. Air America tried and went bankrupt airing bigotry and stupidity.

You say a lot to disparage the opinions of Messrs. Hannity, Beck and Ms. Coulter. Trying to diminish them by calling them “entertainers” does nothing but diminish you. There are few more accomplished historians on television today than Mr. Beck. I have watched many a helpless lefty be dashed to proverbial pieces attempting to win a debate point from Ann Coulter. There is a reason why a huge chunk of every book she writes is footnotes. She’s got too many facts on her side. Many people much smarter than you have tried the same thing with Hannity too. The result is that Hannity and Beck’s audience only grow more and more with every passing week, as do Ann Coulter’s book sales.

You try to disparage them, insult them, diminish them. In the end, the only thing you have left is the race card. There’s one thing you haven’t done yet.

Prove them wrong.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 07:1224Rick

“How long has it been since the secular socialist left produced a “thinker” on a par with Coulter, Beck or even Hannity?”
Really? If you set the bar at those three then we have already won.

Really? Define ‘won.’

They are ‘thinkers’ only in the way that Matthews and Larry King are ‘thinkers’- they are television commentators. They attempt to exert influence via access to the public and the dissemination of points-of-view. And the simple fact is, Fox News annihilates the PBS/MSNBC/CNN cable media cabal.

On any given night, Olberman and Maddow’s audience is minuscule compared to O’Reilly and Hannity, their direct competitors- and I haven’t even brought-up Limbaugh’s multi-million audience that put ‘Air America’ out of business.

In the battle of cable TV political commentary-

You lost!
on 27 Aug 2010 at 10:0125anonsomemore

Rick, are you saying the size of the audience makes right? Out of 140 million voters you are saying 3-4 million into the cult of cable extremism means something?
on 27 Aug 2010 at 10:1026David Anderson

Stossel Fan, we have more regular readers in some hours than you think we have. This blog has thousands of readers. We have more unique readers than many of the small newspapers in the state. Not to mention the so called Nazi remark was played out by the news journal and dealt with in every forum so far including the soon to be aired WHYY First interview. It really is old news. If Carney and the Democrats focus on that instead of the economy, they are dead. Please don’t toss me into the brier patch.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 10:2227Michael P. Borgia

“Out of 140 million voters you are saying 3-4 million into the cult of cable extremism means something?”

Yes, it means everything. Because all of today’s media now essentially takes its direction from Fox News. Fox reports, we decide, then the rest of the media react. For over a century, that role was performed by the New York Times.

Fox’s supplanting of the Times may be the most important development in journalism in history.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 11:1528think123

Rick, your defense of these celebrity extremists is interesting. So I take it you believe the The President of the United States is a racist with a deep seated hatred for white people, a hatred for “white culture” and that the President is intent on destroying our system of checks and balances in order to install a Marxist paradise. That he detests the American way of life and would like to transform it into something resembling the dreams of Mao and Lenin? Is that what you believe? Because that’s what your “thinkers” are saying. Or is it all just a sick joke?

You are saying television show ratings are a measure of integrity or something? If we pit a show about the history of computers against MTV Real World, who do you think wins? Jersey Wives or the nightly news? What does that say about the argument that TV ratings prove something?

Barnum said there’s sucker born every minute. So here we have celebrity disc jockeys posing as deep thinkers, and millions of Americans are out in the audience, like groupies, throwing their panties onto the stage of extremism. According to your right wing Elvis, the granite reliefs carved upon on Rockefeller Center in NYC are subliminal communist propaganda. That’s what your “thinker” is saying. And you say you’re totally with the program eh?

Meanwhile the largest shareholder in the FOX media conglomerate outside the Murdoch clan is none other than Alwaleed bin Talal, the Saudi Arabian prince who does business with the bin Laden family. The prince is very involved in leadership succession at News Corp. He favors Murdoch’s son, as so it will be. Osamabin Laden often rants about his plans to defeat the United States without the benefit of an army or an air force, by dividing, weakening, demoralizing us through acts of terror, with propaganda aimed at rendering our government bankrupt and impotent.
Keep throwing your panties up there patriots. Maybe we can destroy our Commander In Chief. Drag our elected President down, vilify the “anointed one” “the messiah”. All the while the wars, he economic ruin rage all around us. Our enemies, the sons of a thousand years of Islam are smiling.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 12:0029Michael P. Borgia

Let the president speak in his own words about what he thinks of middle America…

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them”

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL); April 6, 2008

Or remember this one?

“I don’t know all the facts….the Cambridge Police acted…stupidly.”

President Barack Obama; July 23, 2009

Do we need to even discuss Obama’s twenty years of absorbing the rantings of Jeremiah Wright and never once walking out of his church?

That by itself is enough to make any reasonable person take Beck seriously. And millions of them are.

Forgive me if I have little concern about a Saudi prince owning a share of News Corp. The title by itself means little. Literally 150,000 Saudi men are members of the royal family. And many of them invest a lot of money in a lot of different American businesses. As for his “contacts” with Bin Laden, you don’t even know for sure if Bin Laden is alive, never mind in contact with anyone outside of his Pakistani cave.

Now, you wouldn’t be trying to profile the Prince now, would you?

And you still have not offered a shred of evidence that Beck is wrong about anything he says.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 12:5430think123

Michael, I know the Pope is supposed to be infallible, now you’re saying Glenn Beck is infallible too? Good luck with that. I know Hannity is a self proclaimed “great American” who writes the President’s party is the party of traitors. It really is getting to be a cult eh? Glorious infallible leaders pied piping with their followers skipping along. Too bad Jim Jones is not around for cable. Tell me he would not have an audience of millions hanging onto every crazy word.

You way overestimate Fox News. CBS NBC ABC PBS reach way more people than Fox. Combined, major network news reaches an audience 8x that of Fox. You sound like you have joined a church or something. The priest, Beck, is infallible. The Fox network rules American thought in you mind. Take a break. It’s just a cable network run by and for a political party. You make it sound like you found the holy grail.

Awed by an audience of 3-4 million, but totally disrespectful of the 70 million who voted for the President in 2008. A bigger majority than the previous President. But that means nothing eh. Why honor an election, respect the winner when there are so many stupid traitors among us. Glenn told us that.

Every foreign enemy since Korea knows you can’t defeat the United States on the battlefield. In Vietnam they managed to defeat us by dividing us here at home. When bin Ladin issued his Fatwah in 1998 declaring the jihad that was to be 9/11, what did we do? We were holding impeachment hearings for Clinton complete with stained dresses. Now in the midst of new, even graver dangers what are we up to? Destroying our own leadership. Our enemies have our number.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 12:5831cookie

Not to mention the so called Nazi remark was played out by the news journal and dealt with in every forum so far including the soon to be aired WHYY First interview. It really is old news. If Carney and the Democrats focus on that instead of the economy, they are dead.
David, do you know how many people have not heard about the Glen “Nazi Gaffe” Urquhart story??? And if Rollins doesn’t put it out there, then I guarantee the Democrats will have it playing every 5 minutes on network tv and radio.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 17:2732FVoshell

Katelyn is absolutely adorable, and I wish her all the best. Republicans everywhere should welcome talented young women like her.

But honestly, guys, would you wax as rhapsodic if she were about seventy and looked like Golda Meir?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golda_Meir

Hmmm…I didn’t think so…
on 27 Aug 2010 at 19:0433David Anderson

Lol Fay. You are so cynical today. You’re talking to a Guy who owns both Maggie Thatcher books and Eleanor Cliff’s book on the other side. I am all about talent, values, and first principles. The fact she is the next generation is in fact encouraging. I think mentorship is vital. I don’t want her or other young men and women to feel like the party made me feel when I was a teen. I think my brothers agree.
on 27 Aug 2010 at 21:0734Rick

Rick, are you saying the size of the audience makes right?

Put it in context. I said none of them are ‘thinkers,’ they are commentators. And, in the battle of commentators, ratings are what matter, and Fox wins, hands-down.

So I take it you believe the The President of the United States is a racist with a deep seated hatred for white people, a hatred for “white culture”…

No, I think he is a neo-Marxist.

Barnum said there’s sucker born every minute.

No, he didn’t, but a lot of suckers think he did.

Our enemies, the sons of a thousand years of Islam are smiling.

Are you saying that peaceful people who stone adulterers, bomb Jews and behead homosexuals are our enemies? Where’s your tolerance?!
on 28 Aug 2010 at 00:1635mynym

Man. How pathetic! You boys run after T&A like you’ve never been with a real woman! Palin, Bachman, Maklin, O’Donnelll and Coulter.

It seems like there are generally more conservative women and many are attractive/feminine. In contrast the Left may be left with more masculine women and effeminate men thanks to its radically/insane egalitarian ideology.
on 28 Aug 2010 at 19:3736anonsomemore

Rick what is a neo-Marxist? The old Marxists believed in one party dictatorship with no free elections, no free speech, no Bill Of Rights, that nobody could own private property, that all religious worship would be banned. How does the new neo-Marxism differ from the old?

Could Obama actually be able to achieve neo-Marxism in the United States under our Constitution? Would Congress have to approve it?

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