First They Came For Our Salt, Then For Our Toys
Apr 29th, 2010 by thatsElbert
It wasn’t but a week ago when it was proposed that the amounts of salt in food should be regulated. Now in Santa Clara County, California you won’t be getting toys in your Happy Meals anymore.
The San Jose Mercury News reports:
“This ordinance breaks the link between unhealthy food and prizes,” said Supervisor Ken Yeager, who sponsored the initiative. Yeager said it is unfair to parents and children to use toys to capture the tastes of children when they’re young and “to get them hooked on eating high-sugar, high-fat foods early in life.”
When my kids were young, my wife and I would occasionally visit the Golden Arches with the kids in tow. We’d order the Happy Meals for them. They would play with the toys and many times leave the food alone. This activity didn’t happen often. We ate at home foods we prepared ourselves. These were our choices. Toys didn’t make them. Governments didn’t make them. We made them.
Restaurant Association spokesman Daniel Conway states:
“The message they (supervisors) are sending is that parents are making the wrong choices and therefore they should no longer have the choice.”
And this is the big deal here. Those that run the government think you can’t make proper food choices for yourselves and your children, so they create rules and laws to make those choices for you. Excuse me, but I think I know how to make proper choices for me and my family. If I don’t know how, then it’s my job to go learn how. It’s called personal responsibility.
This is yet another area that our government has no business being in.
Small potatoes. When it comes to setting up a police state, I, for one, want unlimited no-due-process wire taps and “illegal to be brown” laws.
What do you have to fear if you aren’t a terrorist or a mexican? Right Patriots!!
Small potatoes. When it comes to setting up a police state, I, for one, want unlimited no-due-process wire taps and “illegal to be brown” laws.
Funny how The Messiah has continued and even advocated the former, huh? Even funnier is your pathetic mischaracterization of the Arizona law. Much like that of the Tea Parties and just about everything else you [used to] write at Delaware Cesspool.
Big deal, with Europe drifting to Third World Finance status sure let’s worry about salt.
There has been a lot of wrangling in Europe but nothing has changed with the real problem-spending.
As we continue the Nanny State here, we will be he same as Europe in less than ten years.
Mike Protack
I’m with Mike P. No Nanny state. Stupid laws and regulations…Let the banks do whatever they want and we ALL WIN!! Yesterday’s Goldman Sachs testimony makes that crystal clear.
Amiright Patriots?!?! Booh Yah!! ‘Merica #1
Trust Fund: Why has Obama continued Bush’s counter-terrorism policies? Why hasn’t he closed Guantánamo?
Just a lark here, I know. I really don’t expect a serious reply. Another cute quip is surely forthcoming.
Speaking of deregulation, how’s that oily drilly thing working out for you?
Free market capitalist titan BP is now calling for intervention from the socialist government:
Still think “drill here, drill now” makes oil cheaper? Only if our spineless politicians allow the oil companies to offload the cost of their disasters onto the taxpayer.
Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. On it goes.
The point being – the people who cry the loudest and toughest about a nanny state, are the first ones to come looking for Nanny when they need their nose wiped.
Did you see in the paper today where “the government” is recalling two major brands of baby cribs? They say kids are getting strangled. Why does government think I can’t figure out if my baby is being strangled? I need big government to tell me my child is in danger in my own house? First it was baby proof lids on poison, now this. Enough is enough. I want lard in my french fries, I don’t want government saying french fries have to be potatoes I trust the manufacturers more than government. I want to buy any kind of crib I want. I want to be free to sell any kind of crib or french fry I want. I want to be able to fly an airplane without the government interfering. Nanny state no. Freedom yes.
I sense a real patriotic anti-nanny sate groundswell here. Time to take some action patriots!! The inherent goodness and decency of corporations will save us from the inherent evil and corruption of government.
Amiright Patriots?!?! Booh Yah!! ‘Merica #1
Trust Fund: Why has Obama continued Bush’s counter-terrorism policies? Why hasn’t he closed Guantánamo?
jason330, how is it that you & your kind are able to change subjects so easily? Is it that you can’t defend the indefensible?
Would you like to visit a restaurant to place your order and be told that Uncle Sam says you can’t have your fav anymore because it has too much fat and salt? Hey, Uncle Sam is paying for your doctor visits now, and it’s getting awful expensive to take care of your health because you don’t know how to eat properly. Oh yeah, your kids are too fat. They could stand to lose a few pounds so feed them some bread & water and that’s it. Yeah, I’m sure that would be heaven on earth.
With regard to AZ’s immigration laws, I’ve got a solution. Let’s all get out our hammers & sickles, lay them before us while sitting on the floor next to each other holding hands and singing John Lennon’s “Imagine”.
Corporations can’t bankrupt the country, the Government can and is.
Banks- I support limiting their size to prevent the fall of any single bank bringing down the rest.
Drilling is supported by Obama if you believe his press but we know he is lying through his teeth.
Government has set constitutional responsibilities. it should focus on them and stop with the nanny nonsense.
Mike Protack
It’s been a while, but last time I was in McDonalds they had unlimited packets of salt for the taking. Grab a few on your way out and pour it over your kids food if you want.
Frank, have some extra salt. It’s good for your heart.
There is nothing inherently wrong with your kids having a happy meal only in excess. My kids like the healthy options as well. Give your kids variety. Get apples instead of fries and juice over soda sometimes.
The idea that a treat is wrong is inane. This is worse than a nanny state. It is the mean nanny state ripping toys from the hands of babes.
Frank, have some extra salt. It’s good for your heart.
I meant Elbert. When I read something crazy I usually assume it’s Frank. Sorry.
Joe Camel says: “Happy Meal toys are cool!”
Patriot thatsElbert,
You don’t get it. I’m with you guys on this. Creeping islam-o-nanny-socialism is gonna git us. To arms fellow patriots. You can have my KFC “Double Down” when you pry it from my cold dead hands!! That’s in the Constitution. You can look it up!!
Patriot Mike,
“Corporations can’t bankrupt the country,” Tell that to Iceland. (Booh Yah!! That’s gonna leave a mark. I dare say Mike P is finished for good here after that one!!)
Patriot Hube,
I hate the black guy as much as you. Trust me. Oh…If only McCain and Palin had won…what a earthly paradise we’d be living in right now.
Mike P. won’t be over Iceland for a while.
Again, Trust Fund: Why has Obama continued Bush’s counter-terrorism policies? Why hasn’t he closed Guantánamo?
anon15, you wrote:
Frank, have some extra salt. It’s good for your heart.
I meant Elbert. When I read something crazy I usually assume it’s Frank. Sorry.
Are you wishing ill health to come upon me? Have you lost the argument too?
Fortunately I am well aware of the dangers of heavy salt use. And WOW, no government agency told me! Additionally, *I* chose to refrain from that activity. It’s my choice. That’s the point. Strange as it may seem, adults can normally and should normally have the ability to make their own decisions.
“If ye love… the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace… Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you…” – Samuel Adams
Are you wishing ill health to come upon me? Have you lost the argument too?
Yes, and yes, El. Y’see, wishing death upon someone is “funny” if you’re a “progressive” doing it to a conservative. If it’s the reverse, well, it’s literally Armageddon. (See: reaction of MSM and liberal blogs to Sarah Palin and Tea Party, even those “death” references weren’t even remotely literal.)
As for losing the argument, you can check out the definition of “lose” and “lost” over at Delaware Cesspool.
Jason330 sez “Yesterday’s Goldman Sachs testimony makes that crystal clear.”
Indeed. As Goldman testified to the Democrat politicians to whom 3/4 of all Goldman political donations went in 2008.
Big Government + Big Finance + Big Corporations = Democrat corporate socialism.
At least those Republicans who favor big business don’t run around spewing fauxgressive populist bulls**ite lies.
Don’t believe noisy hypocrites like our Democrat friend Jason330 and his Democrat buddy Lloyd Blankfein.
Exactly Hube. More common ground on Guantánamo!!
When will the black guy listen to us and do the right thing?
Oh…If only McCain and Palin had won… No taxes, no Guantánamo, no limits on insurance companies dumping you for having the nerve to get sick!! … an earthly paradise of teabaggy perfection.
Amiright patriots?!?!
Here is a fact that will make nona’s head hurt:
Last night Republicans forced the Senate to drop a $50 billion fund which would have been collected from banks, to be used in major bankruptcies so that tax payers will remain in the hook if financial institutions fail.
Republicans claimed that It would have been “a tax on banks.” To which I say, “No shit Sherlock.”
Amiright patriots ?!?
Additionally, *I* chose to refrain from that activity. It’s my choice. That’s the point. Strange as it may seem, adults can normally and should normally have the ability to make their own decisions.
Good. Then stop mixing it in with the food; I’ll add salt if I CHOOSE.
Exactly Hube. More common ground on Guantánamo!!
When will the black guy listen to us and do the right thing?
Yeah! Not to mention warrantless wiretaps, rendition, military tribunals … all the stuff you DLers constantly posted about during 2003-2008 but have now conveniently forgotten!
Yeah, cause that permanent bail-us-out-when-we-game-the-Democrat-socialist-rule-book $50BN play money fund will come from those greedy fat cat Wall Street capitalist pig bankers rather than every taxpayer with a bank account.
Is liberal socialism some sort of mental defect that blocks all logic?
Then stop mixing it in with the food; I’ll add salt if I CHOOSE.
If by “they” you mean the companies and restaurants that make the food we consume, then why not tell the companies and restaurants you want things to change?
Do we need the force of law? No. Consumer demand will get attention and create more products with less salt. Campbell’s is selling soups with sea salt, which is supposed to be better than plain-old salt. Is there a demand for it? They must think so.
Additionally, can’t I ask for my prepared foods to have reduced salt? I’ve never asked for reduced salt, but other foods can be special ordered. Yea-many-years ago during one stint working for McDonald’s, some customers asked for no salt on their fries. We accommodated. It happened by simply asking. The customer didn’t have to bring in the health department, the police, or their Senator. They opened my mouth and spoke. Then they opened their wallet and paid.
This is how things can change.
Patriot nona,
You have a point. My auto insurance makes me more likely to crash my car. Therefor I am following your logic and canceling it forthwith.
Thank you for your patriot insight!
Carry on patriots!
Still ignored! Yeah! Not to mention warrantless wiretaps, rendition, military tribunals … all the stuff you DLers constantly posted about during 2003-2008 but have now conveniently forgotten!
Carry on trust funders!
How about lead in paint? If my kid eats paint chips that’s my problem not the nanny state. How about ciggies? Any reason nanny should be telling me not to smoke in the library. People can just leave if they don’t like smoke. Why be against stuff that makes life better?
Telling food vendors to cut the salt rises to the magnitude the servitude of tranquilty vs animating contest of freedom? Well maybe yes freedom is a contest. The no salt folks won.
Give me freedom or give me death. Stop with the no salt talk. Inane.
Patriot Hube,
What in the hell are you going on about? We are on the same side now Hermano. We agree that we both hate the black guy’s approach to Gitmo, warrant less wiretaps, rendition, military tribunals…etc, etc.. Right?
You should be happy. Not all worked up about it.
Amiright or amiright Patriots?!?!
You should be happy. Not all worked up about it.
You obviously didn’t read (surprise!) all that I wrote, Trust Fund. Let me refresh that ever-defective memory: all the stuff you DLers constantly posted about during 2003-2008 but have now conveniently forgotten!
I mean, hey — who on this very site took us down memory lane with a gratuitous shot at GW’s warrantless wiretap program … but said nothing about the current CiC who’s been in office almost a year and a half now?
Carry on trust funders!!
Let’s go to the quote…
When it comes to setting up a police state, I, for one, want unlimited no-due-process wire taps and “illegal to be brown” laws.
Hmmm…? I don’t see where I threw super patriot Bush under the bus.
I don’t blog anymore, but if I did we’d be heaping some scorn on the black guy Hermano.
My auto insurance makes me more likely to crash my car.
Sure, just like how those greedy fat cat insurance companies will pay for your insurance.
LOL … *sigh*
It truly is amazing how you got invited by various media to actually give your opinions when you cannot even put a freakin’ easy sentence together. (Come to think of it, you didn’t do it on those media appearances either. Comedic gold, that.)
I guess that’s what easy money can do for someone.
Goldman/WallStreet $$$ overwhelmingly funding ObamaDems + J330 = “Nothing to see here folks. Quick, LOOK THERE! Is that a shiny monocle on that greedy fatcat Republican bankster???”
Well I’m glad we cleared all of that up Hermano. Although, I’m sure you’ll think of something else I did (or didn’t do) in order to work yourself up tomorrow.
Carry on Patriots!!
You don’t get me, or for that matter pretty much anyone, “worked up” about anything. You have make sense first.
Another shining laugh yourself off the chair example of how daft the left really is, this time with hoity dingbat Joan Walsh confirming the 330′ish lunacy that conservatism is whatever George Bush did.
This is actually a double admission— that O really is Bush III and thus “too conservative”.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/04/29/hardball-guest-says-american-public-thinks-obama-too-conservative/
Your bold italics say otherwise Hermano.
You’re faulting me for really trying to get through that Neanderthalic brow that you possess?
Patriot330, Ten-hut!! Your messiah is a lying toolbag of Bush policy reduxes:
“The Obama administration is seeking to compel a writer to testify about his confidential sources for a 2006 book about the Central Intelligence Agency, a rare step that was authorized by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.
The author, James Risen, who is a reporter for The New York Times, received a subpoena on Monday requiring him to provide documents and to testify May 4 before a grand jury in Alexandria, Va., about his sources for a chapter of his book, “State of War: The Secret History of the C.I.A. and the Bush Administration.” The chapter largely focuses on problems with a covert C.I.A. effort to disrupt alleged Iranian nuclear weapons research.
Mr. Risen referred questions to his lawyer, Joel Kurtzberg, a partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel L.L.P., who said that Mr. Risen would not comply with the demand and would ask a judge to quash the subpoena.
“He intends to honor his commitment of confidentiality to his source or sources,” Mr. Kurtzberg said. “We intend to fight this subpoena.”
Good for Risen. Nice that the panty waisted Obama rag NY Times still has at least a real journalist or two who knows how to tell the Obamastasi overlords to go f**k themselves and their Bush protecting 1st amendment trampling lawyer thugs.
I think someone needs a hug.
Pay someone to give you one, then.
From the way nona talks I get the feeling she really hates the President. Why all the name calling and insults?
It all started with cigarettes. And guess what? It won’t stop with salt, soda and Happy Meals. These safety and health nuts of the Socialist-Democrat Party are totalitarians- they, and they alone, know what’s best for everyone else.
Of course, on the $12-Trllion debt they have created, the know-it-alls are mum.
In 1930′s Italy and Germany, running the banks and auto industries was known as Fascism…and American ‘liberals’ applauded the system!,/i>
Next thing you know the nanny states is going to be getting all into how you do off shore oil drilling. Back off big government!!! We got things under control here in freedomville USA. The United States government should mind it own business here in America.
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safety and health nutsarbitrary capricious and self-serving control freaks of the Socialist-Democrat Party are totalitarians- they, and they alone, know what’s best for everyone else and you will have it their way even if it kills you.Had to Fix, you are all talk, no facts. Somebody told you the Democratic Party was bad, and you are off and running like a lemming over a cliff. Sucker. I guess you know the Patriot Act ( I support) was the single biggest totalitarian thing ever done since old Abe Lincoln suspended part of the Bill Of Rights. You say stuff you heard on TV but having nothing to back it up, nothing.
Bush (who I voted for did all the TARP, all the new wire tap laws, all the new “enhanced” interrogation and somehow you got it in your mind that the Democratic Party is so much more something than the Republican Party. Turn of the TV or watch C-Span, get some facts, you are just parroting stuff you get from The News Corporation. Well of course, unless you can tell us why anything being done now is different that what was done in the last eight years.
Let’s see, Bert. You voted for Bush, you support Patriot Act, you think Democrats are blameless, you are projecting your ignorant contempt for a news outlet you dislike onto anyone who disagrees with you, and you bring up Republicans when not a word was written about absolving any Republicans of anything.
That’s quite a winning routine you have going there.
Oh teh stupid. It truly burns.
Ernie, you gotta read the post before you make the comments no? Where did you get I think Democrats are blameless? That’s way different than what I wrote. I was replying to somebody saying Democrats are socialist totalitarians. I don’t think Democrats are socialist totalitarian anymore the Republican are socialist totalitarian. My point was why blame the Democratic Party when the Republicans did most of the socialist totalitarian stuff he is complaining about. That new law in Arizona giving government more power to ask citizens for identity papers and the calls for a national ID card. Is that totalitarian? Just seems totalitarian is okay, depending on which Party is doing it.
Regarding the “news outlet”. You do know the founding chairman of Fox is chief Republican media guru from the Reagan Administration, Roger Ailes? You do know that Fox News employs only former Republicans from Gingrich, Rove, Huckabee, Palin? You do know Fox News features only anti-Democratic Party commentators like Hannity and Beck? So you’re saying News Corporation’s Fox is just another “news outlet”. I’m saying it is partisan propaganda. Free speech but there’s a difference between news and propaganda.
I don’t object to Fox, I object to people getting most of their information from a Republican propaganda network, then coming away thinking they are getting the straight scoop. I can alway tell a Fox viewer. They know who Van Jones is, but can’t tell you who the CEO of AIG, CitiGroup, or Goldman are. They can tell you all about ACORN, but don’t know a thing about KRB.
I don’t object to Fox, I object to people getting most of their information from a Republican propaganda network..
But you’re okay with the Socialist-Democrat media apparatus- the ABCNNBCBS cabal. If you think they’re ‘objective’ or ‘nonpartisian,’ then you’re the sucker.
Rick, I watch Fox and the others. Tell you what, I used to think they were all biased, and they are, but Fox is in a totally new zone.
ABCCBSNBCPBS news have 8 times more viewers than Fox. Only Fox features non-stop propaganda depicting the President of the United States as communists, showing his image next to images of Nazis and Communists, all with the underlying message this President is not truly American and want to ruin America with some kind of socialist transformation.
You will not see or hear anything like that directed against Republicans on other networks. Believe it or not there is such a thing a journalism. Where there are certain rules about fact checking, double sourcing. Remember Dan Rather go fired by CBS for phony info about candidate George Bush? If a NBCCBSABC news reports damaging political scandal as fact and it turns out to be untrue there is hell to pay. You have double triple check before you air.
A big of Rupert Murdochs success with “tabloid” news is he has totally abandoned the rules of journalism so he is free to say anything about anybody. That’s why Glen Beck night after night can preach the President of the United States is a deep seated racist with Marxist tendencies. Fine. Just don’t make that you infodiet and then go talking like you know what is going on. Fox is to politics what professional wrestling is to sports.
It is more like 4 times T123. Yes Fox is the number one cable network by far and beats all comers combined in that universe. Yes, it matches the networks. Yes, it is just one outpost. That is why the axiousness about one network having a different perspective than all of the others is unreal. The lefties have every other network. Out of a sense of diversity, should there not be one that represents the loyal opposition? Most of the time Fox is balance. There are just a couple of opinion shows that have real conservative bias. What is wrong with that?
That is the American way.
David, your numbers are way off.
In April Fox News averaged about 2 million viewers in prime news hours. ABCCBSNBC news averaged about 23 million. It fluctuates between 8x more than Fox to like in April 10x. The lowest rated single network news CBS alone gets 2x 3x Fox. Fox is a niche network operating as the television arm of the the Republican Party. Nothing wrong about that. But it’s not just some other network. It is the GOP network.
Just doing some casual checking, could be wrong, but PBS does more than FOX. PBS is a great source for non-sensational news. No babes, no swooshes and whishes, no dead babies found in trash cans, no erection medicine ads. PBS really is about as straight news as you can get. And before you start screaming, try watching it first, then come back and say why it is rotten.
No dead babies in the trash, no wild eyed egomaniacs ranting and raving that the President is a communists? No thanks. I like professionial wrestling for sports, and Fox News for politics.
David, most of the anxiousness about FOX is simply because it is a brand new kind of television network created to serve the interests of one major political party. This is a new phenomenon. This is the first President of the United States having to deal with the opposition Party having a full time television network devoted to defeating him. Anybody interested in media and politics is interested in how this new mass media propaganda will work out. It’s like people are interested in the Supreme Court decision saying corporations can spend unlimited amounts getting their candidates elected. You gotta keep an eye on this stuff.
This is the first President of the United States having to deal with the opposition Party having a full time television network devoted to defeating him.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond reason and sanity.
Reagan would have loved one network in his corner.
I am sure that MSNBC and NBC parent were friendly to GWB.
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Rick, I watch Fox and the others. Tell you what, I used to think they were all biased, and they are, but Fox is in a totally new zone.
Obviously, you’ve never watched PMSNBC- Matthews, Schultz, Olberman and Maddow are full-time Socialist-Democrat Party apparatchiks.
How is it Reagan was elected twice if the leftist media was stacking the deck? How is it Nixon scored the biggest landslide in American history against left wing George McGovern back when the Only TV news was three networks. How did Bush and Gingrich take over everything if the media is so so anti-conservative.
Fox and Limbaugh have a very neat set up. They want the ratings want the advertisers what better way to keep you from turning the channel than be telling you there competitors are all left wing looneys. It’s like Ford saying GM is anti-American, buy our cars.
MSNBC is indeed the counter to Fox. All I am saying is don’t get all you opinion from anyone of these, and don’t talk like there is something really wrong with networks other than Fox. Fox is the Republican channel. If that is all you want to know fine.
Nixon was no conservative. Back then the media just haed conservatives not Republicans. Imagine Barbara Walters sleeping with Republican today and the rest of the media keeping it under their hat.
Who said Nixon was conservative? Lots of stuff used to be kept under the hat. Can you imagine if Obama had early onset dementia like Reagan?
How is it Reagan was elected twice if the leftist media was stacking the deck? How is it Nixon scored the biggest landslide in American history against left wing George McGovern back when the Only TV news was three networks…
Firstly, because even the most vehement political proselytizing couldn’t save the obviously inept Carter or McGovern, attached at the hip to Fonda, Hoffman and Baez.
Secondly, Cronkite and his contemporaries were no where near the level of partisanship of Matthews (Tip O’Neill employee), Olberman, Rather, Moyers (Carter employee) and the rest of the leftist media cabal.
How did we know McGovern was inept? MNBC and FOX are a new genre altogether. The mainstream ABCNBCCBSPBS with 90% of the nightly news audience really does have “journalistic standards”. Everybody has there bias but remember Dan Rather got fired for an unauthenticated hit piece on Bush? He broke the cardinal rule in mainstream network news – you don’t report something important unless you have three independent sources. So it’s not all a joke. There is a big difference between tabloid cable politics and the major network news. For one thing they don’t call people fascist racist or communists without proof positive. I get the feeling Rush Limbaugh Corporation has managed to snag market share by making competitors into something bad. Cool for them. Not for the poor suckers who buy into that pitch.