Federal Judge Rules NSA’s Telephone Data Collection on Americans Illegal

In a landmark ruling, Appeals Court Judge Richard Leon ruled that President Barack Obama’s surveillance policies, acted upon by the National Security Agency, ordering the mass collection of Americans’ telephone data, “almost Orwellian” and likely a violation of the Constitution, according to Yahoo News reporter Oliver Knox. Surveillance programs have been under attack since their existence was revealed and the extent of their reach left many Americans horrified. The Judge dealt a blow to the governments contention that such surveillance is necessary to thwart future terrorist attacks. “Founding Father would likely be “aghast” at the NSA’s activity, said Leon. “The government does not cite a single instance in which analysis of the NSA’s bulk metadata collection actually stopped an imminent attack, or otherwise aided the Government in achieving any objective that was time-sensitive,” Leon wrote. Leon also warned that the so-called war on terrorism realistically “could be forever.” He also expressed concerned about the “almost Orwellian” technology that enables the Government to store and analyze the phone metadata of every telephone user in the United States. He said modern-day surveillance tactics would have been “the stuff of science fiction, at a time a precedent ruling was issued, according to Yahoo news reporter, Oliver Knox. The ruling was stayed pending the Administration’s expected appeal. The White House had no immediate response to the ruling.

19 thoughts on “Federal Judge Rules NSA’s Telephone Data Collection on Americans Illegal”

  1. I’d be interested in viewing the administration’s appeal on this one. And the NSA is still able to collect metadata on every American while this appeal process is taking place!

  2. He said modern-day surveillance tactics would have been “the stuff of science fiction, at a time a precedent ruling was issued, according to Yahoo news reporter, Oliver Knox.

    Entertainment:

    “When he was running the Army’s Intelligence and Security Command, Alexander brought many of his future allies down to Fort Belvoir for a tour of his base of operations, a facility known as the Information Dominance Center. It had been designed by a Hollywood set designer to mimic the bridge of the starship Enterprise from Star Trek, complete with chrome panels, computer stations, a huge TV monitor on the forward wall, and doors that made a ‘whoosh’ sound when they slid open and closed. Lawmakers and other important officials took turns sitting in a leather ‘captain’s chair’ in the center of the room and watched as Alexander, a lover of science-fiction movies, showed off his data tools on the big screen.
    ‘Everybody wanted to sit in the chair at least once to pretend he was Jean-Luc Picard,’ says a retired officer in charge of VIP visits.” PBS

    NSA Star Trek room

    Too bad it didn’t help them stop the Boston boys even when the FBI was already interviewing them, huh? That must have been because there wasn’t enough communication between Uncle Ruslan and the FBI/NSA/CIA and the Russians. Or something like that.

    Oligarchs that visited the NSA in order to be entertained might want to take note of the nature of the “national security” being provided by the FBI/NSA/CIA if those dupes and degenerates have any interested in trying to stop people from getting blown up >>>>>IN REALITY<<<<<<.

  3. …in his a 68-page, heavily footnoted opinion, Leon concluded that the government didn’t cite a single instance in which the program “actually stopped an imminent terrorist attack.”

    So what’s the point of the program? Oh, to spy on law-abiding Americans.

    Leon went on to call the program “almost-Orwellian technology.”

    It’s all about control- or, a boot on a face.

  4. Note, the biggest instances of terrism that the FBI/NSA/CIA fail to stop usually contain this pattern: ‘Uncle Ruslan’ aided terrorists from CIA official’s home

    They can’t stop people that they’re trying to groom and train to use against other nations. They couldn’t stop Osama after Operation Cyclone, although CNN/CIA agents could find him in his cave to do a little interview. Leftists frame this pattern as “blow back.” But they’re not cynical enough. The average peasant usually does not self-radicalize and then go commit terrorism… so look to the facility near Gitmo where the CIA was trying to turn people to use as double agents.

  5. Gitmo’s secret CIA facility turned detainees into double agents

    This is why it doesn’t matter how many civil liberties sheeple try to give up to wolves for the sake of safety. They’re not going to be kept safe from the CIA’s own double agents that they’re trying to use for the sake of “national interests”/geopolitics again.

    When it comes to the real, intelligent terrorists and mercenaries and not a mentally challenged or schizophrenic individual that the FBI has been grooming in order to stymy a terrist plot again, it’s always: “There was a failure of communication between the agencies… or somethin’. We didn’t know what the CIA was doing. Uh, don’t look at me… I still get a promotion, right?”

    There’s usually absolutely zero accountability among all these careerists, except when they wind up fighting with each other. And even then it turns into a political fight among corrupt politicians so there’s still not much accountability for getting Americans killed due to terrism again (e.g. Benghazi). “It was due to a Youtube video… or somethin’.”

    I wonder what the Founders would write about all this and the establishment of the NSA/FBI/DHS/CIA in the first place.

  6. “And the NSA is still able to collect metadata on every American while this appeal process is taking place!”

    Yes, because it was a ruling on a preliminary injunction motion, and not a final decision. But I know that you have no idea what the difference between those two things is.

  7. “And the NSA is still able to collect metadata on every American while this appeal process is taking place!”

    Yes, because it was a ruling on a preliminary injunction motion, and not a final decision. But I know that you have no idea what the difference between those two things is.

    And neither do you. The preliminary injunction was granted (under the premise that the plaintiff would prevail after trial) and would have stopped the NSA surveillance. That is what injunctions do.

    However, the judge stayed his own order, perhaps due to possible national security concerns, FISA court involvement and (possibly) a lack of jurisdiction over all components of the NSA program(s).

  8. “So what’s the point of the program? Oh, to spy on law-abiding Americans.”

    Not necessarily law-abiding citizens always, but not terrorists either.

    I think most of the information gathered, from what is essentially warrantless wiretapping, is being used by local law enforcement in combination with Homeland Security and judges to cheat the Constitution in an effort to catch and convict more people breaking the law.

  9. “So what’s the point of the program? Oh, to spy on law-abiding Americans.”

    No, it’s to spy on ALL Americans (along with lots of foreigners) whether they are law-abiding or not. It is the failure to distinguish that creates the problem.

  10. C’mon Nobody
    I certainly expected a much better comment from you. All I get from you is sarcastic rhetoric. You must be hitting the bourbon again. Rough day?

  11. “You have no idea how much I know about the American legal system.”

    Yeah, we know. There’s the judicial branch and the sheriff branch…

  12. Nit
    “Yeah, we know. There’s the judicial branch and the sheriff branch…”

    Now, that’s one heck of an intelligent comment….

  13. I think most of the information gathered, from what is essentially warrantless wiretapping, is being used by local law enforcement in combination with Homeland Security and judges to cheat the Constitution…

    The Drug Enforcement Administration has been the recipient of multiple tips from the NSA. DEA officials in a highly secret office called the Special Operations Division are assigned to handle these incoming tips, according to Reuters. Tips from the NSA are added to a DEA database that includes “intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records.” This is problematic because it appears to break down the barrier between foreign counterterrorism investigations and ordinary domestic criminal investigations.
    Because the SOD’s work is classified, DEA cases that began as NSA leads can’t be seen to have originated from a NSA source.
    So what does the DEA do? It makes up the story of how the agency really came to the case in a process known as “parallel construction.” Washpo

    More business for Corrections Corporation of America:

    Revenue for the third quarter of 2013 totaled $421.5 million compared to $435.7 million in the third quarter of 2012. Revenue for the third quarter of 2013 reflects increases in revenue per compensated man-day and declines in populations from contract losses and lower populations from the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which were partially offset by increases in populations from the Federal Bureau of Prisons and Oklahoma.
    CCA Investor Relations

  14. No, it’s to spy on ALL Americans (along with lots of foreigners) whether they are law-abiding or not. It is the failure to distinguish that creates the problem.

    A failure to “distinguish” between “law abiding” foreigners:

    President Barack Obama knew of the organization’s spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel – and approved of the efforts, a National Security Agency official has reportedly told a German newspaper.
    The Economic Times writes the “high-ranking” NSA official spoke to Bild am Sonntag on the condition of anonymity, saying the president, “not only did not stop the operation, but he also ordered it to continue.”
    The Economic Times also reports the official told Bild am Sonntag that Obama did not trust Merkel, wanted to know everything about her, and thus ordered the NSA to prepare a dossier on the politician.
    (Fox News)

    The National Security Agency’s spy program targeted the communications of the Brazilian and Mexican presidents, and in the case of Mexico’s leader accessed the content of emails before he was elected, the U.S. journalist who obtained secret documents from NSA leaker Edward Snowden said Sunday.
    Journalist Glenn Greenwald, who lives in Rio de Janeiro, told Globo’s news program “Fantastico” that a document dated June 2012 shows that Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto’s emails were being read. The document’s date is a month before Pena Nieto was elected. CBS News

    Law abiding? Apparently the Obama administration should spy on itself, given that it’s basically criminal at this point. Actually, if he spied on himself then Obama perhaps might know what’s going on before “reading it in the paper.” Someone should probably give him a report on his own phone conversations, then he might know what’s going on.

    In any event, all this spying has little to do with stopping terrism. Mainly because most terrorists are being trained, groomed and handled by the intelligence services of Oligarchs Inc. all around the world… including the U.S. In fact, it’s a technique that the U.S. has perfected more than most.

    And most careerists in the intelligence services only care about your national security in a “trickle down” sort of way based on their interests as an agency, geopolitics and the interests of multinational corporations or even foreign factions. I wonder if they allow dual citizens in the FBI/CIA/DHS/NSA.

    As far as the CIA goes, they keep on training terrorists. The naive Leftist interpretation of what’s going on is “blow back” from some other peasant but it’s usually the intelligence services themselves.

    Then there’s the NSA, supposedly stopping terrism: NSA and 911

    The idea of giving up your civil liberties and privacy in order to stop terrorism and keep your family safe would be one thing if that was actually what was going on in general. But that’s not what is happening. You could give up all your civil liberties and it wouldn’t stop the possibility of “blow back” or the CIA not being the only intelligence service of oligarchs trying to train double agents… or the FBI and NSA failing to be able to see a “terrist” because they’re being groomed and trained by the CIA again, etc.etc.

    With respect to all this at the level of a peasant, it simply won’t do any good to try to check your underpants for WMDs. Let alone stand in a huge crowd of sheeple that could be easily targeted waiting to have your underpants checked for WMDs. Real. Dumb. Although I guess people can support having their grandmother’s underpants checked for WMDs thanks to Chertoff Inc. if it makes them feel better. Maybe that’s the main point, people don’t have to actually be any safer due to the NSA/FBI/CIA and all the defense contractors. But it’s nice to feel like it. More entertainment.

  15. “I certainly expected a much better comment from you. All I get from you is sarcastic rhetoric.”

    It wasn’t sarcastic. It’s an obvious fact: By gathing all data, the NSA obviously is collecting data on all Americans. What part of that don’t you understand?

  16. Worth reiterating something: It makes up the story of how the agency really came to the case in a process known as “parallel construction.”

    The NSA at work, they couldn’t stop 911 and the preplanned war for hopium and change but they can drive up business through the “war on drugs” for Corrections Corporation of America.

    Great, huh?

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