Earthquake
Sep 1st, 2010 by FVoshell
Animals instinctively know when an earthquake is about to happen. They sense dangers invisible to us. We humans most often don’t know until the event is upon us.
Political earthquakes can also be almost invisible, especially to those ensconced in long standing power structures which have lost their “raison detre,” yet still live on—zombie institutions without a soul.
For decades conservatives have complained the Republican establishment is a zombie institution stumbling along on clay feet. It still looks alive because it continues to hold the seats of power. It still considers itself a king maker and tries to set the agenda for the party regulars.
But the establishment has ignored the political earthquake beneath its feet. It hasn’t taken account of the earthshaking rebellion of people who have grown sick and tired of seeing the Republican Party in cahoots with those who have relentlessly expanded the power of the federal government. It has dismissed conservatives’ intense concern over social issues such as abortion as entirely peripheral to “real” issues. And it has cooperated with Democrats so often as to become virtually indistinguishable from them, largely ignoring its own party platform.
Tremors that signaled once tame and easily manipulated party regulars were becoming increasingly disaffected and restless enough to stampede toward the exit went unnoticed or were dismissed as incidental.
But the truth of the matter is that the earthquake is already upon the GOP establishment and is shaking it loose from its old foundations.
The earthquake is the Tea Party movement coupled with a spiritual Great Awakening.
If the Scott Brown election was a noticeable tremor, the Miller primary was a fissure gapping wide enough for even the most obtuse to notice.
Miller’s win is one of the biggest political upsets of the year. It was a major victory for the Tea Party and has emboldened the party to back Christine O’Donnell against Mike Castle. If the Tea Party succeeds in helping to topple Castle, the GOP establishment in Delaware will weaken and probably crumble while the national Republican structure will be shaken to the foundations.
But as noted, there is more to the mix than the Tea Party.
If anything should wake up the GOP establishment, national or state, it should be the Glenn Beck rally this past week, which gathered one of the biggest crowds the Washington Mall has ever seen.
The emphasis was overwhelmingly over spiritual concerns.
Among other things, the leaders of the rally emphasized restoration to God and of the principles of the Judeo/Christian ethic that has made this country great. “Restoration of Honor” was the theme.
If the spirit that prevailed at the rally continues and spreads across the USA, truly this country is in the middle of an earthquake that will shake not just the GOP establishment, but every institution in the land.
Scoffers within and outside the establishments of our day who still choose to ignore the earthquake even as the foundations of their houses of sand are shifting and crumbling would do well to heed the advice of the great rabbi Gamaliel, who when the Sanhedrin was inclined to put the leaders of the new Christian movement to death and thus permanently extinguish it, reminded them that fake religious leaders and their movements always died out on their own from lack of credibility and support.
He concluded: “Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone…For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
I, for one, believe the earthquake has only just begun.
I think it started in Florida and has been building. You are right. I think Ron Williams hit it today.
So David and Wrong Williams think Urkel, Yes. O’Whackjob, No.
That is probably right given the fact that Rollins has been a terrible campaigner. Hardly ground shaking news.
I am not writing off O’Donnell. As you say it is hardly ground shaking to say it is easier to beat a newcomer than a guy who has held office since 1966. Castle has built a lot of good will. My crystal ball is broken, unlike yours so I am not predicting that race. The two polls that we took recently do not include the senate race. I don’t know how the latest news good and bad is playing out.
We are prepared to run with either.
David,
As you know, I think this phenomenon is bigger than individual races. It is an anti-establishment revolution that encompasses a broad spectrum of change.
In some respects, it’s the antidote to the 60′s surge and consequent establishment of left liberalism.
“…a broad spectrum of change.”
Care to mention some specifics? It all sounds like crybabyism funded by the usual suspects to me.
The Tea Party Express’ admission today in the News-Journal that it basically did no due diligence on O’Donnell says it all. For those who need a refresher:
http://knowchristineodonnell.com/
http://delawarerepublicanrecord.wordpress.com/
She is simply unelectable in a general election. End of story. As to Miller, it certainly doesn’t hurt to have Sarah Palin’s backing in Alaska. It also helps that you don’t have baggage like Ms. O’Donnell.
FYI
Carl Cameron of Fox News is in Greenville right now, right next to the BBC, talking about the Castle – O’Donnell Primary. He brought up Castle’s purposeful ducking of O’Donnell, as well as O’Donnell’s past/current financial problems and losing campaigns. Considering the fact that the eventual General Election winner will be seated immediately and its for Biden’s old seat, over the next two weeks the national exposure of this Primary is only going to go up. And it just might get Alaskaed up.
Fay, you’re right about the big crowd in Washington. Other than the far bigger crowd that showed up for the President’s earthquake in January, it was a indeed a huge turnout.
The last time the mall was filled overflowing was when the Left was totally united against the war in Vietnam. Back then, the heroes were George McGovern and Jane Fonda. As a staunch Republican conservative I got the distinct felling that President Nixon was done in 1972. As it turned out, after the mass outpouring of the Left, President Nixon won the greatest landslide in American history.
Maybe if the rally, and for that matter your “earthquake” was led by leaders of true Christian bearing I might be more inclined to listen more attentively. As it is the man who led the rally is a race baiter. He said that our President hates white people. He said President Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people. And this is who you follow in the name of our Christian God.
That all white rally led by a race baiter could easily be described as a neo-Ku Klux Klan gathering. A happy Godly face slapped on the oldest kind of hatred known to man.
Fay, does Jay-boy say anything worth responding to?
Que Pasa,
Hmmm…
I don’t think anyone who has discovered a secret racist code in the phrase “your money” deserves a response.
“That all white rally”
Thinky-dink, did you get that line of criticism from the overwhelmingly all-white, liberal media complex?
Or did you attend the rally and see for yourself?
If a supposedly “all white rally” is a problem. Is the fact that blacks support this President at a near 90% rate, due to a partial commonality in skin-color, a problem to you as well?
Or does your ad hominem stupidity only flow in one direction?
10-4, Fay!
Think 123,
I wish you would actually follow the meaning of your moniker and actually think analytically 1,2,3.
Get “aholt” of yourself, Bill Holt. You know as well as I Beck recanted concerning his comments about Obama.
Labelling 500,000 or more Americans as neo-Ku Klux Klan is a pretty trashy way of avoiding the meaning of the rally.
What exactly is brewing here?
What would a systemic Tea Party victory look like? What legislation would be passed/repealed?
What spiritual victories would you like to see achieved by a Republican purge that could not be achieved by individuals living out their Christian principles?
Why would a spiritual Great Awakening require a political apparatus to persist? Jesus expressly rejected the revolutionary road, yet his life and message transformed the hearts of individuals and shook an empire to its very foundation.
It’s no trick to put people on the Mall when you OWN A TV NETWORK…
avoiding the meaning of the rally.
Somehow I don’t think “restore the nation” means looking into their own hearts and correcting the error of their ways.
Fay Voschell, I always know you’re extra upset, in a tizzy, when you go for the old name thing. I’m sorry I did not mean to rattle you by stating the facts that Glenn Beck is a charlatan that has your number. And you are a sucker for respecting Glenn Beck as a spiritual intellectual leader, when he is in fact a paid entertainer that would just as gladly say God is dead if there was big money in atheism.
But nothing you said about me or my name explains why you, as a sincere Christian women, find yourself engaging in the what the commandments warns us against:
“You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Yet you idolize Rush Limbaugh Glenn Beck Sarah Palin Fox News. You connect them with a movement that will take us back to God. And now you compound the sin of idolatry by tell lies to protect Glenn Beck? Mr. Beck recanted?
Recant means saying you no longer hold an opinion or belief. Mr. Beck said only that sometimes his words come out in an unfortunate ways, perhaps he should have said things differently. Mr. Beck did not recant for telling America the President is a racist who hates white America. Nor did he recant for using retarded people as props for mockery on his radio show. Obama the magic Negro is a racist who hates whites. This is what you are cheering on in the name of restoring God and Honor? Or is it all some misunderstanding. We do not hear what we hear. You have an excuse.
These false God’s have managed to pierce your rational mind with Manchurian Candidate words they know make you their’s. Take back Government. For the people. Fight tyranny. Love God. The Founders. Like Pavlov’s dog the masses drool yelp for more.
Sad. I mean that. God warns against Pied Pipers, false idols, charlatans. It’s all over the bible. You’re a victim, you just don’t know it.
By the way twice as many people turned out to smoke pot in the debauchery known as Woodstock. At the time they were sure we were heading into the Age Of Aquarius. I thought that was a con too.
Luckily I like the sound of crickets chirping in the distance.
Roger Pilon
Vice President for Legal Affairs, Cato Institute :
Joe Miller’s win in Alaska isn’t simply a sign, but one more in a long string of signs of the tea party’s potency as a national political force. From Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts to the massive Beck rally on the National Mall on Saturday, forces are stirring in the nation as they haven’t for years. And as that rally showed, they aren’t entirely or even mainly political forces. Nor are they mainly religious in any narrow sense, as the mainstream media seem to be saying, once again missing the point.
Rather, the tea party movement, like the original tea party over two centuries ago, is a rebellion against overweening government and a call for the restoration of individual liberty, individual responsibility, and limited constitutional government. That there should be a religious element in this should not surprise. After all, America’s three great revolutions – the first whereby we declared ourselves free and independent, the second that ended slavery, and the third that ended legal segregation – were all supported and inspired by religious beliefs and institutions.
And for good reason: In America, at least, religion is a private affair, free from government coercion, a domain where individuals can and must assume responsibility for themselves – the very virtue that is crippled by dependence on government. Alaskans and Americans more broadly are increasingly rejecting the Murkowski view that government is instituted to provide goods and services. It’s instituted to ensure our freedom, including freedom from forced dependence on government.
Luckily I like the sound of crickets chirping in the distance.
Any specifics would be beyond your mental capacity anyhow, Trust Fund.
The ‘earthquake’ was guaranteed the day BO won the election.
Now, shove-it-down-our-throats Socialist-Democrats will pay- heavilly. Unbelievably, even the US Senate is within reach of the GOP. The House…well, that’s gone.
Thanks, BO.
Think 123,
Please read David Anderson’s post with the excerpt from Roger Pilon. I think Pilon puts matters very succinctly.
Are you a fringe cult preacher in disguise? You’ve called on me to repent on my knees before God, accused me of idolatry and of willingly submitting to brainwashing. And I’m incapable of thinking on my own.
Sheesh.
Yet I’d be willing to bet you don’t think you’re judgmental and condemnatory? I’d be willing to bet you think you’re a pretty tolerant guy.
Pax,
“What spiritual victories would you like to see achieved by a Republican purge that could not be achieved by individuals living out their Christian principles?Why would a spiritual Great Awakening require a political apparatus to persist? Jesus expressly rejected the revolutionary road, yet his life and message transformed the hearts of individuals and shook an empire to its very foundation.”
Excellent questions.
A spiritual Great Awakening arises underneath, surrounds and transcends institutional structures. It then infuses and informs and influences those structures, just as Christianity did during the Roman Empire. Transformation of heart and life result in transformation of society as one’s faith is lived out.
Martin Luther King Jr. leadership of the civil rights movement was an example of a faith lived out in the public square, a faith that was transformative of society–including poltical structures.
So while faith does not “need” a political structure in order to survive; inevitably, it will effectuate change in those structures as it is lived out.
Still wondering what changes this revolution is wanting to usher in. Anyone? Is the tbagz movement really this vapid, that you can’t come up with one or two things?
Hube, I have no idea what you are getting at. Maybe you should try using some BSG analogies? Maybe that would help with your clarity.
U.S. Senate:
Murray (D)-WA, Lincoln (D)-AR, and Carnahan (D)-MO are toast. Boxer (D)-CA, Bennett (D)-CO, Feingold (D)-WI, Reid (D)-NV are on the ropes, and probably gone. Sestak (D) is trailing Toomey in PA by 10. Rubio is pulling away from Crist (I) and Meek (D) in FL. DE and ND are in the bag (R-+2). Kirk (R) is even in IL for BO’s old seat.
And don’t write off CT and NY.
If this holds form, that’s 11 R pickups.
Repudiation!”
Hube, I have no idea what you are getting at. Maybe you should try using some BSG analogies? Maybe that would help with your clarity.
Sorry, Soft Hands. Anything above “Clifford the Big Red Dog” is beyond you.
Accept this.
Fay, I just hate to see good smart people like you following a shock jock TV personally thinking you are being led to God and Honor.
I don’t see where I asked you to repent. You don’t need to repent, nor can I make that judgement. But you should denounce Glenn Beck for saying the President of the United States is a racist with a deep seated hate for white people. That alone should disqualify him as some who deserves your respect, much less your cheerleading.
I am tolerant in the large sense, that when somebody I did not vote for wins a national election, I do not set out to destroy them. That’s my way of living true to my Christian values, adhering to the Founders belief in E Pluribus Unum.
I did notice the President had the Great Seal of the United States with those words prominently displayed last night. I am intolerant when I see charlatans demagogues preying on innocent souls at time like this. Exploiting our national fears anxieties as a way to make money. I am not going to sit back and watch us go banana republic where crowds hold more sway than national elections.
Think 123
I won’t reply further to someone who persistently and consistently mischaracterizes and distorts what I write and believe in favor of maintaining a stereotypical and reductionist view of me and my views.
Rick, the only way Delaware is in the bag is if Castle wins. O’Donnell like it or not is down 10 points in the latest poll. Now winning the primary would certainly get her a bump in the polls and fundraising, but in a deep blue state it is probably a 60-40 chance that Coons wins. She’d get my vote as Coons winning the seat guarantees more bad spending for the next 2+ decades, but it’d be a tough pill to swallow if we give away a seat that looked like a gift 5 months ago.
Faye….
What else can the likes of the THINKING ones do?
They see they’re losing and what….you think they’re going to admit they’re wrong, that the vast majority of people in this country must be nuts, that half a million people showing up at the Lincoln Mall are all stupid enough to follow a charletan…cannot think on their own.
Hey, they can still type and even if they are left all alone in a little puddle of their own they can keep going on and on like an energizer bunny and at some point you just gotta walk away.
Calling half a million people a Ku Klux Klan ralley….good decent people who gathered peacefully as is their American right…..really sad. Those people never hurt a soul, they all probably work hard and live law-abiding lives. Nothing sadder than this but libs….they hate the world. They’re angry, mad and terribly unhappy.
They have nothing else but to continue their attacks.
Have some mercy on them but walk away, because if you think they’ll stop and think about it all, maybe think that perhaps…well I dunno…maybe there’s something I’m missing here….NOT.
I feel sorry for the lot of them.
Pat,
I AM walking away from think 123.
I will not accept his characterization of me. He’s made a persona for me that bears absolutely no resemblance to the real person–just as he did, as you rightly noted, for the half million peaceful citizens who assembled to let the world know their beliefs.
Yes, you are right. Mercy and compassion are always the answer, and sometimes that means just walking away.
She’d get my vote…but it’d be a tough pill to swallow..
I feel the same way about ‘Mouse.’
FVoshell,
If you can’t beat ‘em – going around saying they are gay. That’s the game plan right?
Think123: And you are a sucker for respecting Glenn Beck as a spiritual intellectual leader, when he is in fact a paid entertainer that would just as gladly say God is dead if there was big money in atheism.
Hey, we’ve got another mind-reader on the premises.
The vitriol expressed by political partisans is directly proportional to the fear the target invokes in their collective psyche; see Palin, Beck, Limbaugh…
In this case, criticism is the highest form of flattery.
Fear
“One of the paramount purposes of this order is to “exemplify a pure patriotism toward our country.” Every Klansman is taught from the beginning of his connection with the movement that it is his duty “to be patriotic toward our country.” From the Ku Klux Klan manual.
If you read Fay Voshell’s post, she says she believes in Glenn Becks, his movement, she supports his message, endorses his cause. It is the cause of pure Patriotism. Glenn Beck says America has no Honor. Honor needs to be restored. He says the President of the United States is a racist white hater. Beck says a darkening has come over us. A darkening that threatens not just Honor, but Liberty itself, and God herself.
Fay is one of Glenn’s Becks followers. She considers Mr. Beck to be part of a “Great Spiritual Awakening”.
I say Glenn Beck is a creep who exploits people for money. Excerpts from the Ku Klux Klan manual below are totally relevant. Beck is no doubt neo-KKK. KKK is not just about whites looking out for whites. The KKK is mainly about God Patriotism Family and Honor. From the original KKK manual:
“The Knights of the Ku Klux Klan is a movement devoting itself to the needed task of developing a genuine spirit of American patriotism. Klansmen are to be examples of pure patriotism. They are to organize the patriotic sentiment of native-born white, Protestant Americans for the defense of distinctively American institutions. Klansmen are dedicated to the principle that America shall be made American through the promulgation of American doctrines, the dissemination of American ideals, the creation of wholesome American sentiment, the preservation of American institutions.
“The supreme pattern for all true Klansmen is their Criterion of Character, Jesus Christ, “who went about doing good.” The movement accepts the full Christian program of unselfish helpfulness, and will seek to carry it on in the manner commanded by the one Master of Men, Christ Jesus.”
The Home. “To shield the SANCTITY of the home.” The American home is fundamental to all that is best in life, in society, in church, and in the nation. It is the most sacred of HUMAN INSTITUTIONS. Its SANCTITY is to be preserved, its interests are to be safeguarded, and its well-being is to be promoted. Every influence that seeks to disrupt the home must itself be destroyed. The Knights of the Ku Klux Klan would protect the home by promoting whatever would make for its stability, its betterment, its safety, and its inviolability.”
You gotta watch out for the phonies who suck you in with GOD HOME SANCTITY JESUS COUNTRY PATRIOTISM then next thing you know they got you doing evil. It’s like you have to warn kids not to take candy from strangers? I think we adults need to be careful about taking ideas from charlatans. Phones who are not at all what the say they are.
The modern Tea Party is very much neo-KKK. That’s an observation intended not to insult, just a factoid for your consideration. One senses the same certitude, self-righteousness, the exaggerated sense of Godliness, intolerance of those the different, really all the very same markers as KKK – with the exception that the Tea Party does not openly preach white supremacy. However, Tea Party leader Glenn Beck does say our first black President is a racist man who hates whites. Tea Party leaders say a darkening has happened in American.
Who knows, maybe Tea Party members would like to be members of a neo-KKK? Here’s the entire manual. Cross off what you disagree with. It really is not much different that what Mr. Beck is preaching.
http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/hist409/klan/klanman.html
You can believe anything you want to believe, that is your right. But by invoking the KKK, it’s obvious you do believe…anything.
Are you on Sharpton’s mailing list?
“We, the twenty-five members of the Ku Klux Klan…”
Rick,
There is no arguing with the radical left. Like the perptrators of the Stalinist show trails of the 30′s, they make up a persona, attach it to the person they wish to take down and charge the attacked with “crimes” that are only in their minds.
There is absolutely no arguing with them, as they have created a scenario in their own minds and live in it exclusively, creating an alternate “reality,” complete with villains and renegades of their own vain imagining.
What I or others actually believe and live out is of no consequence to the radical left. Just as Stalinists threw around words like “enemy of the state,” “hooligan,” and “rabble rouser,” even so leftists throw around accusations–like “racist” and “Ku Klux Klan”–with abandon. Facts don’t matter. They only seek to discredit and tear down.
I’ve written on this tendency of the left many times and have concluded it’s best to ignore them–which I certainly will do from hence forward.
Certainly I, who upheld the Civil Rights movement during the 60′s–and paid for it–do not have to defend myself against such mudslinging. I know who I am and what I believe, and no accusations can change that.
Let them rant and rave.
Cute. The person who equated Glenn Beck with Jesus and the “I have a Scheme” rally in DC with the founding of Christianity, says “…they have created a scenario in their own minds and live in it exclusively, creating an alternate “reality,”
Hilarious. You can’t make this stuff up.
Rick, did you look at the KKK manual?
“We believe that the Holy Bible and The Constitution of the United States of America are the Greatest Safeguards of true liberty, Justice and the Dignity of man ever devised.”
You can’t tell me there’s anything in that KKK credo not to like. These guys are the ultimate Christian Godly Patriots. For over a century the Klan has been calling for a “spiritual reawakening” in America. The KKK is all up in arms worried, almost paranoid, about Muslims, immigrants, black radicals, secular non-believers, communists. It’s a good fit with the Tea Party no? David Duke, now Glenn Beck. These guys get smoother every generation.
90% of KKK recruiting language is based on the same key words Tea hustlers use: God Jesus Christian Patriotism Sanctity Family Liberty Morality Freedom Home Country Military. If you do a “word cloud” of keywords, you discover the Tea Party speaks primarily the same language as the Klan. Can you guess where the quote below comes from. Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Michele Bachman, or Sarah Palin?
Today, White Christian children, are taught to be ashamed of their culture. Our children are taught at public expense, theirs is a culture of slavery, bigotry and oppression; they are schooled to be ashamed because they are white! They are taught that because a few owned slaves, all must pay a never ending debt. They are taught that in order to make amends they must condemn the founders of our nation and hate their history, heritage and culture.
Wrong. Those are words are the Ku Klux Klan.
The KKK not only has the same cause as the Tea Party is share enemies. The KKK really has it in for the Black Panthers, The NAACP, and ACORN. They think these black groups are bringing the country down. So you can put a big yellow smiley face on Glenn Beck instead of the traditional hood, but be careful who you idolize.
And always remember like the KKK says:
IN THE BEGINNING GOD; ETERNAL INFINITE CREATOR AND HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST, OUR CRITERION OF CHARACTER, OUR SAVIOUR. IN THIS WE PLACE ALL OUR FAITH.
Pertinent, I think, to the inquisatorial style and resulting condemnation, a brief transcript from the Salem Witch trial:
Examination of Ann Foster, Mary Lacey, Sr., and Mary Lacey, Jr., Second Version
21st July, 1692. Before Major Gidney, Mr. Hawthorne, Mr. Corwin and Capt. Higginson.
Q. Goody Foster! you remember we have three times spoken with you, and do you now remember what you then confessed to us? — You have been engaged in very great wickedness, and some have been left to hardness of heart to deny; but it seems that God will give you more favour than others, inasmuch as you relent. But your daughter here hath confessed some things that you did not tell us of. Your daughter was with you and Goody Carrier, when you did ride upon the stick.
A. I did not know it.
Q. How long have you known your daughter to be engaged? A. I cannot tell, nor have I any knowledge of it at all.
Q. Did you see your daughter at the meeting?
A. No.
Q. Your daughter said she was at the witches meeting, and that you yourself stood at a distance off and did not partake at that meeting; and you said so also; give us a relation from the beginning until now.
A. I know none of their names that were there, but only Goody Carrier.
Q. Would you know their faces if you saw them?
A. I cannot tell.
Q. Where there not two companies in the field at the same time?
A. I remember no more. — Mary Warren, one of the afflicted, said that Goody Carrier’s shape told her, that Goody Foster had made her daughter a witch. —
Q. Do not you acknowledge that you did so about 13 years ago?
A. No, and I know no more of my daughter’s being a witch than what day I shall die upon.
Q. Are you willing your daughter should make a full and free confession?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you willing to do so too?
A. Yes.
Q. You cannot expect peace of conscience without a free confession.
A. If I knew any thing more, I would speak it to the utmost. — Goody Lacey, the daughter, called in, began thus; Oh! mother! how do you do? We have left Christ, and the devil hath gat hold of us. How shall I get rid of this evil one? I desire God to break my rocky heart that I may get the victory this time.
Q. Goody Foster! you cannot get rid of this snare, your heart and mouth is not open.
A. I did not see the devil, I was praying to the Lord.
Q. What Lord?
A. To God.
Q. What God do witches pray to?
A. I cannot tell, the Lord help me.
Q. Goody Lacey! had you no discourse with your mother when riding?
A. No, I think I had not a word.
Q. Who rid foremost on that stick to the village?
A. I suppose my mother. — Goody Foster said, that Goody Carrier was foremost —
Q. Goody Lacey! how many years ago since they were baptized?
A. Three or four years ago, I suppose.
Q. Who baptized them?
A. The old serpent.
Q. How did he do it?
A. He dipped their heads in the water, saying, they were his and that he had power over them.
Q. Where was this?
A. At Fall’s river.
Q. How many were baptized that day?
A. Some of the chief; I think they were six baptized.
Q. Name them.
A. I think they were of the higher powers. — Mary Lacey, the grand-daughter, was brought in, and Mary Warren fell into a violent fit.
Q. How dare you come in here, and bring the devil with you to afflict these poor creatures? — Lacey laid her hand on Warren’s arm, and she recovered from her fit. —
Q. You are here accused of practising witchcraft upon Goody Ballard; which way do you do it?
A. I cannot tell. Where is my mother that made me a witch, and I knew it not?
Q. Can you look upon that maid Mary Warren, and not hurt her? Look upon her in a friendly way. — She, trying so to do, struck her down with her eyes.
Q. Do you acknowledge now you are a witch?
A. Yes.
Q. How long have you been a witch?
A. Not above a week.
Q. Did the devil appear to you?
A. Yes.
Q. In what shape?
A. In the shape of a horse.
Q. What did he say to you?
A. He bid me not to be afraid of any thing, and he would not bring me out, but he has proved a liar from the beginning. Q. When was this?
A. I know not; above a week.
Q. Did you set your hand to the book?
A. No.
Q. Did he bid you worship him?
A. Yes, he bid me also afflict persons. — You are now in the way to obtain mercy if you will confess and repent. She said, the Lord help me.
Q. Do not you desire to be saved by Christ?
A. Yes. — Then you must confess freely what you know in this matter. She then proceeded. — I was in bed and the devil came to me and bid me obey him and I should want for nothing, and he would not bring me out.
Q. But how long ago?
A. A Little more than a year.
Q. Was that the first time?
A. Yes.
Q. How long was you gone from your father, when you ran away?
A. Two days.
Q. Where had you your food?
A. At John Stone’s.
Q. Did the Devil appear to you then, when you was abroad? A. No, but he put such thoughts in my mind as not to obey my parents.
Q. Who did the devil bid you afflict?
A. Timothy Swan. Richard Carrier comes often a nights and has me to afflict persons.
Q. Where do ye go?
A. To Goody Ballard’s sometimes.
Q. How many of you were there at a time?
A. Richard Carrier and his mother, and my mother and grandmother. — Uponeading over the confession so far, Goody Lacey, the mother, owned this last particular.
Q. How many more witches are there in Andover?
A. I know no more, but Richard Carrier.
(Thomas Hutchinson , History of Massachusetts-Bay, II, 27-28 .)
(Mary Lacey, Jr. of Andover, Case)
Fay, I hope you consider all of this fun. It is fun to kick these things around. Did the witch hunters know about Marxism back then? I guess not. They would have had a field day with that.
You closed your post Earthquake by suggesting those of us opposed to Glenn Beck’s “Restoration Of Honor” and the Tea Party earthquake are fighting against God. You site:
“you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.” I hope you understand those of us who do oppose this movement take umbrage at your saying you are on the side God, while we are fighting against God. That is so KKK.
You made a good analogy about animals sensing earthquakes. Animals are also a lot better than humans at sniffing out pieces of shit. Which gets us back to Glenn Beck and the KKK.
Our disagreement pretty much boils down to – You think Glenn Beck is leading us to a spiritual awakening. I think Glenn Beck is a piece of shit con man who knows exactly how to push the buttons of his guileless followers.
For all your protestations, you have yet to say how you feel about anything of substance. Where you disagree with Beck or the KKK for that matter. You write plenty of words but you answer few question. You bob and weave whine about intolerance but never really say where you stand when your ideas are confronted.
What do you think of Tea Leader Beck saying the President is a racist who hates blacks? That’s exactly what the KKK is saying about Obama. Do you agree or not. Yes or No. Is that a despicable thing to say about our President. Yes or No. Your silence says you agree with Beck and the KKK on this?
Do you think the NAACP and ACORN, the two largest national organizations representing the interests of minorities, are somehow a threat to America? Beck and the KKK use identical language to target these predominately minority groups as threats to us. You’re either with Beck and the KKK on this issue or you are against them. Yes? No?
You have to be dreaming if you think you can spend two years writing the President is a secret Marxist bent on taking away our liberty, destroying capitalism – we who support him stole the Nations Honor, we who support him are fighting God, you and your movement are part of a spiritual reawakening to restore the Honor – - -do you read what you are writing? – - – -then when somebody gives you some shit, you sound like you are all very very sensitive about name calling. It’s like noooo I never said you are fighting God and dishonoring the Nation by opposing us. That’s a rant. A rave.
Rick, did you look at the KKK manual?…think123
No. But, I read your posts. Normally, you are a thoughtful writer, but in this case, comparing mainstream conservatives to the KKK, you are exhibiting uncharacteristic hysteria.
“We, the twenty-five members of the Ku Klux Klan…”
Rick, you and I both understand the smear power of guilt by association.
I’m not comparing mainstream conservatives to the KKK. The KKK is an extreme right wing group. Just like the Communist Party is an extreme left wing group. Small, inconsequential, out there at each extreme. I am comparing extreme conservatives to their soul mates at the fringe – the KKK. Like a vein of shit running through the gold mine of American politics, the KKK has always been there is still. New names new leaders new logos the extreme right is alive and doing very very well.
Extreme conservatives have everything in common with the KKK, except for the overt racism. Today, it goes unspoken. The Tea Party is the KKK’s intellectual next door neighbor. I hope they don’t move in together.
When I see Glenn Beck up there, spouting the God talk, sticking with his public statements that the black President is a racist who hates white people, that our nation’s honor has been darkened, we need to restore Honor, we need to watch out for black groups ACORN NAACP anything big an black and especially black panthers – you can’t blame me for thinking KKK. I hope you see where I’m coming from.