Brent Wangen removed from state election primary page
Jul 14th, 2010 by Angel
The Delaware Department of Elections has removed Brent Wangen from the Republican primary list. Brent claims he has had no prior notification of this event and is planning on contacting the Department of Elections tomorrow. More details about this event will be shared when it has been made public.
One wonders how the Department of Elections may remove a candidate from their website when that candidate has paid their filing fee…
I have been removed also. I paid my fees and filed my papers over a week ago…
http://www.willmcvay.com/2010/07/unwelcome.html
Checks are made out to the party. The Election office does cash the check, they simply pass it on through to the party. In this case, and speaking as the Treasurer for the Kent County Democratic Executive Committee, we did not receive your check.
Angel I have commented that the interpretation of the Delaware Code that allowed for Mr. McVay’s filing was wrong on its face and the result of an incompetent Deputy AG. Now that the DOJ has found an adult to review the facts, the situation hasl changed. I will be interested to see how this plays out as Beau Biden needs to find a graceful way out of this mess.
Local politics in this state is such a crock of shit.
And we cannot find a candidate to run against AG Beau Biden.
Oh wait, that was the deal cut with Mike Castle vs Joe Biden. Mike Castle would run in the US Senate in exchange for no GOP opposition to Beau Biden.
[...] Tuesday, Libertarian cum Republican Brent Wangen filed for the GOP primary to replace Rep. Mike Castle (R-DE). Wednesday, the Delaware Board of Elections appears to have kicked Wangen out. [...]
@ Mr. Sweeney:
I have a copy of the filing form with the check on it timestamped by the Kent County Department of Elections. I filed a week before the deadline and the law is clear that my filing must be accepted.
“Oh wait, that was the deal cut with Mike Castle vs Joe Biden. Mike Castle would run in the US Senate in exchange for no GOP opposition to Beau Biden.”
Please provide even the smallest amount of proof for this, and please name the GOP candidate who was told not to run by the state party.
“Oh wait, that was the deal cut with Mike Castle vs Joe Biden. Mike Castle would run in the US Senate in exchange for no GOP opposition to Beau Biden.”
You don’t need the permission of the party to be on the ballot if you’re registered Republican. That flakewad you support, Christine O’Donnell is proof of that. You just need to be a registered Republican in Delaware with the filing fee. You can’t make a “deal” if you can’t control who registers to run.
Wangen isn’t registered as a Republican, and if you’re not a registered Republican you can’t get on the ballot without the OK of the state party. That makes perfect sense.
Anontoo,
Open your eyes. Why have only Biden, Carper and Castle been able to win and control the political scene in Delaware. The agreement has been in place since all three traveled to DC, to supposedly serve the citizens of Delaware.
These three clowns are exactly why we need term limits and why the citizens needs to ensure they are voted out if when they screw up.
It’s called putting themselves first, and the citizens second. Mike Castle, Joe Biden and Tom Carper care less about us and what issues we are facing. We are nothing to Castle, Biden and Carper. It’s all about their re-election, and that is all they care about.
Jason if you want to see a “clown” look in the mirror. There was nothing stopping any registered Republican in Delaware from getting on the ballot to run against Beau Biden.
As I pointed out before, if the state party could stop a registered Republican from getting ballot access, your flakewad princess of distortion, Christine O’Donnell, wouldn’t be on the primary ballot.
The Dept. of Elections decision regarding McVay and Wangen is entirely consistent with the state law and past AG opinions and court decisions as folks have already pointed out on this website. That the Dept. of Elections took its time to make sure it had all the facts doesn’t change the simple fact that McVay and Wangen couldn’t file to run as R’s or D’s.
“As I pointed out before, if the state party could stop a registered Republican from getting ballot access, your flakewad princess of distortion, Christine O’Donnell, wouldn’t be on the primary ballot.”
Don’t forget Jason’s other favorite candidate Mike Protack.
As always the name calling especially from a guy named after a breed of Horse. At least the hind end of the horse is correct. The folks who stay anonymous always talk the loudest.
It is indeed a tragedy the GOP does not have a candidate for AG. if it wanted one, the party could find one. With the Dr Bradley issue and the overall dislike for Dems this year Beau Biden is vulnerable.
As for favorite candidates I assume Horse Boy aka Tennessee Walker favored the GOP candidates we fielded statewide who have lost by an average margin of 20.1% over the last three cycles? That margin takes into account the wins by Castle and Wagner.
You remember don’t you. Lt Gov in 2004 over 35% loss, Lt Gov in 2008 25% loss, U S Senate in 2006 over 40% loss, Governor in 2008 over 30% loss. Perhaps you mean the State House where in 2002 we had the place 29-12 and now where are we? Maybe you mean the aggressive attack we made in the State Senate where we went from being down three to insignificance?
Keep up the attacks, it provides for a good laugh and motivates to go door knocking.
It is time this year for the Delaware GOP to work hard and offer Delaware voters a clear choice.
Mike Protack
I can’t wait for Rollins & Bonini to win this year so Mike Protack can retire that stupid talking point, which is largely explained by the fact that Delaware HATED George Bush more than nearly every other state, and every Republican suffered in ’04, ’06 and ’08 from that.
But again, I’m looking forward to that talking point being retired.
Gee Mike, Are you going to deny that Jaon O’Neill is a supporter of yours????? I guess I can’t blame you considering the idiotic comments he makes. But really, why not show some loyalty??
I quoted quiet alice in comment 13 and merely stated what everyone knows who has read this website. Jason O’Neill was and is a supporter of yours . Here is what I said.
“Don’t forget Jason’s other favorite candidate Mike Protack.”
For this comment you go on another of your rants and tirades with your typical name calling.
As for my so called attacks I don’t know how anyone can believe someone is being attacked by simply stating that they support you????
At any rate you seem to miss the boat, As You point out certain races have been lost by GOP candidates. To Quote You these include, “U S Senate in 2006 over 40% loss, Governor in 2008 over 30% loss.” Now the one thing these races have in common is that the eventual GOP nominee beat you in the Primary. In the Case of Bill Lee he twice beat you by overwhelming margins. So while you may try and make the argument that these are flawed candidates to have lost in the General Election so badly, the fact is these candidates beat you and in the case of Bill Lee very handily. In fact Lee’s margin of victory in 2008 exceeds his 2004 results. This despite the fact that you have run non stop for statewide office from 2003 thru 2008. It appears the more people get to know you the more likely they are to vote against you in a statewide Primary.
What One can get from the facts listed above is that no matter how bad the GOP candidate is they still always manage to beat you in the Primary. How this is the GOP’s fault is beyond me. Maybe you can fire the 20,000 registered Republicans who consistently vote against you.
Tennessee,
What you fail to recogized is that Mike was in those races months before Bill Lee or Jan Ting. The DEGOP leadershup recruited both Lee and Ting to hurt Mike. It was intentional.
Let’s get down to this. The Republican Party will go no where if we put up candidates who are out of touch. The Delaware media is in bed with the party leadership and that is why people vote the way they do.
We, as conservatives need to change the dialogue and drum conservative principles.
As John Quincy Adams stated, ““Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”
A vote for Rollins or Castle is a vote for party loyalty and not conservative principles that will right side this wayward ship.
“What you fail to recogized is that Mike was in those races months before Bill Lee or Jan Ting. The DEGOP leadershup recruited both Lee and Ting to hurt Mike. It was intentional.” They also recently recruited Mike McDermott to run against Protack for the Christiana/MillCreek regional chairmanship, which Protack lost. How does a long established candidate continue to lose to people arbitrarily selected to run against him? Maybe that should be the story line?
“What you fail to recogized is that Mike was in those races months before Bill Lee or Jan Ting. The DEGOP leadershup recruited both Lee and Ting to hurt Mike. It was intentional.”
Well Jason You and I agree that Mike was in the race before Lee or Ting (that would be Lee in 2008).
This actually proves my point that despite Protack’s head start he still lost to Ting and Lee.
Just for the record Jason, Do you think I engaged in name calling when I said you supported Mike Protack??? I thought this was common knowledge. I personally don’t consider it an insult to say anyone supports someone. That is their right.
Doesn’t my name say it all. When will you break free from this absolute control by Republicans and Democrats. I’m not saying 3rd party is the way to vote but I am saying that why can’t these two candidates be on the primary ballots? Isn’t that where the PEOPLE chose their party candidate? It seems as if now even that is taken away and we are only graced with those choices the Republican/Democrat Party Heads think we should have.
Keep drinking the Kool-aid maybe one day it will set you free!
Jason: The DEGOP leadershup recruited both Lee and Ting to hurt Mike. It was intentional.
That’s the biggest load of crap in American history, plain and simple. In 2006 it wasn’t “The DEGOP leadershup” (sic) that “hurt Mike.” It was your flakewad princess of distortion, Christine O’Donnell, who sunk your friend Mike.
Jan Ting only got 43% of the vote in the 2006 primary.
It was Christine O’Donnell who pee’d in Mike’s Wheaties by jumping into the race and claiming that she, The Flakewad Princess of Distortion, was TRULY the ONLY pro life, conservative running for the seat, and that Mike Protack WASN’T CONSERVATIVE OR PRO LIFE ENOUGH. Sound familiar? Like a toned down version of the campaign she’s running now.
Your princess took 17% of the primary votes that would have gone to Mike, and all by herself, handed Jan Ting the primary victory. And make no mistake, the 17% that voted for O’Donnell would have gone right to Protack, not Ting.
I just want to know…what the R’s and D’s afraid of? Let the Libertarians run primaries. Sounds to me like the same load of crap excuse they used when they tried to change the rules in the middle of the game earlier this year when they tried to raise the registration totals for ballot qualification.
I smell a lawsuit coming on this one too.
Elaine Manlove, never too busy to come up with some other scheme to rig the vote and screw Delawareans.
I believe this is a quote from the smoke filled room where the Delaware political leadership got together with Elaine “You know Elaine…we were all in favor of letting them play…but they’ve become better than US! People like them! We can’t have THAT. Make them go away.”
They are afraid of a blanket primary state with no vote to match. Previously if the Democrats or Republicans wanted to play in the others primary they had to find someone of that party willing to play along. That hasn’t been easy. Sullivan found someone to challenge Charlie Oberle and make a big issue of his record before the general. It almost sank him.
If Democrats can file in a GOP primary that becomes easy.
Still New York has had a lot of success with candidates seeking multiple ballot lines. It is not really confusing because voters are voting only for their party. It works well.
“I just want to know…what the R’s and D’s afraid of? Let the Libertarians run primaries. Sounds to me like the same load of crap excuse they used when they tried to change the rules in the middle of the game earlier this year when they tried to raise the registration totals for ballot qualification.
I smell a lawsuit coming on this one too.”
Evan, The R’s and D’s are not a bit afraid of the Libertarians. If you think for a minute that Brent or Will (Very nice guys in my book) have a prayer in any primary then I want you to send me a case of whatever you drink.
Republicans and Democrats, especially those in the General Assembly, are more concerned with certain members of the opposition major party (Republicans or Democrats) filing spoiler candidates on their own.
Your very question displays a level of ignorance that is palpable.
I cannot speak for the R’s, and I can only speak for myself as a D. I am not afraid of the Libertarian party, nor am I afraid of additional names on the ballot. I encourage it. What bothers me is the backhanded way they went about it. If I want to get a message out to the voters in my district, I will pay for an advertisement, a direct mailer, hold a meeting, attend a meeting, pay for a robo-call, or walk to their house and knock on the door. I won’t pull some media stunt to do it. Let them run a campaign the same way as everyone else.
Mr. McVay, I did not see your check, so the Democratic party did not take possession of it. You could have written it in February, and the message is still the same. If you want to run as a Democrat, change your affiliation.
I agree with Mr. Sweeney on this. That being said, I can’t blame Mr. McVay for the incompetent legal advice given to Kent Election officials by the dope assigned to that agency by the Department of Justice.
So…TW and Sweeney are both crying about this.
SUCCESS!! Republicans and Democrats united!
What about Colin and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats who filed on Tuesday? (Including Mike Castle)
How come they didn’t pay in Feb.?
I’ve got a nice wheel of cheese for all the whine out there.
I am not crying about this, why does it always turn negative in this damn blog? The party system has been around for more than 100 years. In one fell swoop. Will thinks he can completely change American Politics. I spoke with him, and he said that the Libertarian message will not be heard as the third-minor party. Campaigning in a Republican or Democrat Primary and spreading the Libertarian message was a choice. There are ways to get the message out. If he has lots of money, direct mail. If he has no money, walk and knock on every door. Maybe Campaign 101 is not offered by the Libertarian party, but there is a lot of research on the Internet. His approach is going to turn a lot of people off and they will listen LESS to his message.
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It’s getting thick on this thread!
Mr. Sweeney, I submitted my check to the Department of Elections as required. It is their responsibility to forward the check on to the parties. They have not done so as required and that will be addressed in the hearing scheduled for Monday. With respect to your campaign advice, I am calling voters personally rather than using “robo-calls” which I just hang up on when I get them. I am also going door-to-door as you recommended and I have gotten a very warm reception from everyone with the time to talk.
The party system may have been around for 150 years, but how’s that working out for ya? It may be going well for the party bosses, but the voters out in the real world are hurting. You also suggest that I “attend meetings” after you kicked me out of yours at the behest of your county chair. I understand that your bylaws only allow registered Democrats, but that does not change that I am unwelcome. It just means I am INSTITUTIONALLY unwelcome. Whatever the Democratic machine has decided and whatever rules they have put in place, I think the members of your party should be offered a choice unconstrained by party registration. I have been affiliated with your party, and got absolutely nothing out of the experience except a vote in your primary for whatever candidates you had “pre-approved”. Luckily, Delaware state law does not require your approval for me to participate in your primary. I will not affiliate with the Democratic or Republican parties again, especially following the heavy-handed, bare-knuckle, Chicago-style manner in which they have conducted themselves over the past week.
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Tennessee Walker, thank you for your supportive comments, but I must correct you that my understanding of the law is not based on the AG’s opinions, which have demonstrated a tendency to flip-flop, but rather on a plain and simple reading of the law. The phrase you locked onto in your previous comments from Section 3106 of Title 15, “their respective parties” has already been interpreted by the Delaware Superior Court to mean the parties in which they have filed to participate in the primary process. There is nothing in state law requiring the approval of the party machines to enter the primary election. I am confident that Vice Chancellor Noble will concur with my understanding at the hearing scheduled on this matter for Monday, at 2:00pm in the Kent County Court of Chancery.