63% of Republicans believe Obama is a Socialist
Feb 4th, 2010 by David Anderson
That is really disturbing, it is obvious that the other 37% need to be informed. The man hires Marxists and Maoists into the staff and shadow “czar” cabinet. If you look at the agenda of the Fabian Society, the New Left and the American Progressive movement, you see the agenda of the ruling regime. Fabian Socialism is a democratic socialism of government control and bureaucracy brought about by evolution not revolution.
President Obama seems to a Fabian in a hurry. He has taken over most of the American Auto industry, is micromanaging banks to the point of restricting the number of times that we can transfer money from savings to checking, is attempting to dominate the health insurance industry, micromanage healthcare, and is attempting to run every aspect of the energy industry. He is attempting a national healthcare system. He is picking the companies of to be favored in the new green industry. Some first year it was. Next on the agenda are redistributionist tax policies which will take from the rich and give to the “poor”. He wants to bring back the estate tax and more than double the tax on dividends. He wants to control lending for college and small businesses. He wants to allow the EPA to regulate carbon dioxide which would put it into every area of life. He is continuing the nationalization of education. He is attempting to expand the power of labor unions. He is open to a global currency. Compare this agenda to the Fabian Society (a British socialist think tank) agenda.
One would have to blind or ignorant to deny that President Obama’s regime is one that is socialistic in its bent. If one needs further proof, we have one admitted socialist in the U. S. Senate, Bernie Sanders I-VT. He is a faithful ally.
We are in a struggle between the taxpayers and taxeaters. President Obama’s new budget sides mostly with the taxeaters. Those who believe in the free market can not let this cross dressing regime, which purports moderation during the day but is the most extreme challenge to Americanism in 70 years, to succeed in implementing its agenda.
Obama is a man who seems to get the indignities of his youth (father less and discrimination among many) confused with the real struggles of most Americans.
His answer has always been government and while using government for his own desires he shares a deep dislike for the country.
He is a very flawed man with no leadership skills and and endless desire to talk and talk and talk yet never act.
Mike Protack
Junior most certainly has “daddy issues”.
I used to think Obama was a socialist all you had to do was listen to some of the things he said while he was running.
I have changed my mind though. Now i believe he is a full blown communist.
You’re giving credence to a Daily Kos poll?? C’mon, David.
Of course he’s a socialist; anyone who can’t see that is a fool. After all, BO lamented that the US Supreme Court never really addressed ‘income redistribution.’ This is just one of many examples; how much proof do you need?
“Stop the Pathetic Little Commie Bastard!!!”
I wonder if this statistic is more proof that Republicans CAN read.
Or, at least they can comprehend Barry when he reads THE BOOK HE WROTE ABOUT HIMSELF!!!!!!!! You know, the one where he talks about how he chose his friends carefully, the more politically active black students…hmm who were the politically active black students in the 70′s? Processing…processing (thanks Mika)…Oh yea! The Black Panthers were politically active and typically black college students…the MARXIST PROFESSORS…the “chicanos”…the feminists….punk rock poets…etc. I mean..if you want to become at the very least a socialist…or worse a Marxist communist…these are the people you hang out with! The only thing he’s missing is the eco-terrorists and I’m sure he just FORGOT to mention those people.
I’m more concerned about the 37% that DON’T think he’s a socialist.
You’re giving credence to a Daily Kos poll?? .
Hube – one of the cool things about the dKos polls is that unlike Rasmussen and others, they give you full access to the crosstabs, the questions, and the methodology.
So why don’t you tell us what was wrong with this poll’s methodology, other than who paid for it?
“I’m not an ideologue. I’m not!” – Obama (1/29/10)
Yeah and Uncle Willy isn’t a philanderer and Uncle Teddy wasn’t an alcoholic.
If Obama must state it like that, then he is most likely what he denies.
The daily kos is not the most accurate poll, but it can’t be that far off. Besides from personal observation and what I gleen in polls and rhetoric of leaders and pundits, it matches. I know that i agree with almost all of the majoritarian positions and proudly so.
I don’t know about you, but I get good people every week trying to convince me that I need to take up the birther cause. Obama is a secret Muslim not born here determined to destroy America from with in. Do I think is a third of GOPer’s, no. Do I think it is as much as one in four, yes. More Democrats thought Bush was in league with the Saudi’s to create a crisis and false wars (1/4 even thought that he knew about 9/11 before it happened) and take over and Democracy did not collaspe.
All of us have outlier opinions, some right, some wrong. It does not invalidate us. We just need to humble enough to abandon the ones that prove false.
The 37% can only be out of touch or uneducated. Obama is a textbook socialist; we call his agenda radical, but it certainly isn’t new.
Books on government or politics written decades ago which discuss the history and methods of democratic socialism seem, to today’s reader, to be an exact description of Obama’s campaign and his agenda once elected. He has, quite literally, done things by the book. It’s disturbing to find that so many Republicans have either forgotten their history or never learned it in the first place.
David, we all say education is the key to our future? Educating. Making people smarter? You are making people dumber – and to top it off you are doing it by lying. By deliberately deceiving people, you abandon the very principles good Christians are sworn to live by.
I visited EvanQ FoundersValues. There I read:
“I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.”
“I believe in God He is the center of my life”.
I read about dedication to values like:
“Honesty”
“Reverence”
“Hope”
“Humility”
“Moderation”
“Gratitude”
The I come here and read what can only be described as wickedness, with no voice counseling moderation. No one standing up against lies. Even EvanQ finds comfort in deception and extremism. Does EvanQ find it honest, humble and moderate to say President Obama is in league with the Black Panther movement? EvanQ who says he “must be more honest today than yesterday”. Evan picks out every bad person he can find to connect with Obama yet conceals any good person that might help shine truth on the matter of who the President is. Evan would like us to think Obama has spend more time with Black Panthers and Marxist than with members of the House and Senate. Deliberate deception totally at odds with the promise of foundersvalues where he urges people to send money to foundervalues under false pretense that he actually abides by suc values as “humility” and “moderation”.
Kind of reminds you of the pedophile priest. The one who talks virtue, practices evil.
Timothy 1:19 – “Cling to your faith in Christ, and keep your conscience clear. For some people have deliberately violated their consciences; as a result, their faith has been shipwrecked.”
David your lies, your slander directed at the President are anti-Christian behavior. You should ask God’s forgiveness, consider a new Christian path for your life. A real Christian path not this phony shit where you talk the God talk then spit the venom.
One example of your deliberate deception: telling innocent readers that President Obama took over the auto industry. If you did it once I would call it a mistake. By when you do it over and over – make it sound like it was Obama not Bush – then it’s just a plain rotten lie. It was President Bush who initiated the automaker deal. Christian conservative capitalist not socialist President Bush. In December 2008:
“President George W. Bush stepped in Friday to keep America’s auto industry afloat, announcing a $17.4 billion bailout for GM and Chrysler, with the terms of the loans requiring that the firms radically restructure and show they can become profitable soon.
“If we were to allow the free market to take its course now, it would almost certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy,” Bush said at the White House, in remarks carried live by the national broadcast networks. “In the midst of a financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action. The question is how we can best give it a chance to succeed.”
“Proverbs 11:3 – “Honesty guides good people; dishonesty destroys treacherous people.” David, you should prey to God for guidance to lead you away from your lies.
“Christ said that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. If Christ is Truth, then it follows that lying is moving away from Christ. Being honest is about following in God’s footsteps, for He cannot lie.”
You are misleading your readers in an attempt to bring people to your side. If your lust for a popular blog, your lust to see your politics prevail, your lust to destroy your enemies – if lust is greater than your glory for God, then you have truly fallen. Seek redemption. Ask forgiveness. Find you Christian God again. When you write, swear to tell the truth, and only the truth so help you God.
Go to foundersvalues.com for further guidance.
“Does EvanQ find it honest, humble and moderate to say President Obama is in league with the Black Panther movement?”- think123
When good old Barry himself says it in his own autobiography..yes.
“Evan would like us to think Obama has spend more time with Black Panthers and Marxist than with members of the House and Senate.” – think123
Yet again, Barry tells us that himself. He tells us that he sought these people out when he went to the universities in Hawaii. And think…you challenged individual…the House and Senate of the U.S.A. aren’t the hallowed halls they used to be. There are more than enough “likeminded” Marxists (Maxine Waters anyone?) and Progressives in Congress for old Barry to pal around with
“Deliberate deception totally at odds with the promise of foundersvalues where he urges people to send money to foundervalues under false pretense that he actually abides by suc(h) values as “humility” and “moderation”. “-think123
Once again, I’m only using Barry’s own words here. Let’s be clear, I do urge people to send money but more than that to get involved with the group. To PRACTICE these values and yes I do practice them, or try to, no one is perfect. That said, I hold the feet of Obama and the others who want to “represent me” to the fire. I will call them out when they don’t hold to these values and I want people to call ME out when I step outside my value set. None of these values or principles precludes me from speaking out when I see our leaders not living these values.
Hey Think123…who are you to question the faith of someone based on FACTS stated openly? Are you christ? Are you the creator?
Tell ya what there pal… why don’t you name some specific things that you think are LIES here. I’m sure David and I could more than provide enough evidence of the facts here.
FYI: Barry also says SPECIFICALLY that he discussed “neocolonialism” in the dorms at night…Here is what neocolonialism is:
Neocolonialism is a term used by post-colonial critics of developed countries’ involvement in the developing world. Writings within the theoretical framework of neocolonialism argue that existing or past international economic arrangements created by former colonial powers were or are used to maintain control of their former colonies and dependencies after the colonial independence movements of the post World War II period. The term neocolonialism can combine a critique of current actual colonialism (where some states continue administrating foreign territories and their populations in violation of United Nations resolutions[1]) and a critique of the involvement of modern capitalist businesses in nations which were former colonies. Critics adherent to neocolonialism contend that private, foreign business companies continue to exploit the resources of post-colonial states, and that this economic control inherent to neocolonialism is akin to the classical, European colonialism practiced from the 16th to the 20th centuries. In broader usage, neocolonialism may simply refer to the involvement of powerful countries in the affairs of less powerful countries; this is especially relevant in modern Latin America. In this sense, neocolonialism implies a form of contemporary, economic imperialism: that powerful nations behave like colonial powers of imperialism, and that this behavior is likened to colonialism in a post-colonial world.
Oh my. That was an impressive comment, Think123.
Some people’s use of God and “values” are quite convenient. They are also carelessly applied and easily expendable. I do believe we are dealing with the justification of lying in the name of the “greater good.”
I do believe we are dealing with the justification of lying in the name of the “greater good.” -pandora
Once again, can you give us a specific lie? And let me just say, the use of your “progressive value”, ["The greater good"] is just priceless. Bravo!
Think123 did a good job of exposing specific lies – which you did not respond.
And I’ll get back to you once I stop laughing over Hey Think123…who are you to question the faith of someone based on FACTS stated openly? Are you christ? Are you the creator? line.
You are the ones who are priceless.
FYI, you should have used the word “Brava” instead of “Bravo” when addressing me. Just sayin’.
“Think123 did a good job of exposing specific lies – which you did not respond.” – Pandypoop
Where? I was looking for specific “lies” but all I saw were things Barack Obama himself SAID and WROTE in his little auto-biography.
I wasn’t sure what you feminazi’s preferred these days…do you want male tone…female tone…no tone…you can never tell what the P.C. world will demand next *rolls eyes*
A real Christian path not this phony shit where you talk the God talk then spit the venom..think.
God, what a pathetic individual. Have you no shame?
By-the-way, Pandora..why does Delaware ‘Liberal’ censor opposing views? Perhaps because you’re all either too naive, uneducated, or both, to logically refute or even debate an unpleasant or controversial subject? It’s funny to be lectured (particularly on the subject of religion) by a book-burning Stalinist.
Another pathetic phony.
“The Left is Always Right-End of Discussion”…J. Stalin and Delaware ‘Liberal’
Feminazi? Classy, Evan. Pandypoop? Even classier, and a true sign that you have nothing left in your arsenal but sophomoric name calling. And what I prefer – if you insist on attempting to speak in a foreign language – is the correct usage. Not PC. Correct.
As far as specific lies… look no further than think123′s auto industry example – which has still gone unchallenged.
EvanQ I already did site one lie, David said President Obama took over “most of the American Auto industry”. David was corrected, given the true facts several times, but he keeps repeating the same lies. He makes it sound like Obama is different than Bush when it comes helping the auto industry. That is dumb. It is a lie.
Most of the whole premise of this blog against the President is anti-Christian, delusion, pure lies.
Now we have – The President discussed “neocolonialism” in late night college dorm bull sessions? What are you trying to tell us? We should favor colonizing lesser nations? You love America. The President hates America? What is the real message? Only the Orwell Thought Police would try to translate late night college dorm discussions into evidence of intellectual treason. Perhaps the President should apologize to the State for thinking certain thought in the early years? The issue of neocolonialism has been settled. Colonialism like we suffered under the King is dead. Neocolonialism is too. Great nations no longer conquer and exploit lessor nations to enrich themselves like they once did. Since when did that attitude become anti-American?
Even as Obama commands HellFire Missiles striking down enemies in undeveloped countries, as he orders more brave troops to man distant outposts in the wilderness of the forth World, we are going to pick fly shit out of pepper trying to make it seem like this new President is what – against America?
I unsurprisingly disagree with think123. President Bush gave a bridge loan like Carter did. He refused the chance to take it over. The plan was presented and he passed. President Obama couldn’t wait to do it. In fact, he asked Bush to make sure they survived so he would have that option.
Oh please, anon. As you say, if ANY poll comes out that even remotely puts Democrats/”progressives” in a negative, you DE Liberal morons immediately attack it, methodology and all. And these are the mainstream polls. Imagine if Michelle Malkin or some other con blog site commissioned such a poll. And Markos is writing a book comparing the American Right to the Taliban. Yet, he wants you to believe that the GOP is nuts?? LOL!!!
Even IF the results are accurate, the “scarier” items in it are different … how? … from that poll from a few years back that had similar #s of liberals/Democrats believing or unsure that George Bush knew about 9/11 in advance? Thus, we should infer that you “progressives” are all loony as you want everyone to believe about the GOP?
Oh, and oops — a majority of DEMOCRATS view socialism POSITIVELY!
So, what’s wrong with that supposed majority of GOPers believing that Obama is a socialist??
(Oh, wait — that poll is Gallup, which means it’s not “trustworthy” in the mind of a DLer …)
Luckily, the American people beginning to see-through BO and Pelosi’s ‘hope and change’ nonsense. This is one of the reasons Corzine lost in NJ, Deeds got annihilated in VA and Brown took the ‘Kennedy seat.’
The left actually believes that somehow BO’s election, against a mediocre candidate, represented a sea-change in American politics. Wrong. BO ran as a reasonable, moderate candidate, but now, in conjunction with Pelosi, Reid and the left, is proving to be a socialist ideologue; and his agenda is being rejected. As it looks now, the Republicans have a great shot at re-taking the House, and a possible shot at a 10-seat Senate pickup.
“Hi, We’re Delaware ‘Liberal’…Like Stalin, We ‘Win’ Our ‘Debates’ the Fool-Proof Way…Through Censorship.”…Wee ‘Win’ Weenies of DL
The only trouble with Obama being socialist is – you have to call George Bush socialist too.
if you compare Bush policy with Obama policy they’re almost identical. So why is one guy the Socialist? Is is the Black Democrat thing that’s making people crazy?
Bush $700B for TARP Bailout, buys up equity in banks, $20B for government equity stake in auto makers, $300B a year for expanded Medicare Drug benefit, micromanagement of health insurance with Health Savings Accounts, $1T in war, all done with deficits debt. Bush sets up huge new Homeland Security Agency, nationalizes airport security into government run TSA, creates Patriotic Act to expand government snooping power, argues libraries have to turn over reading records of selected citizens. Demands easier phone tapping, urges postal workers, utility crews, cable TV installers to keep an eye on the houses they visit, report suspicious activity to Homeland Agency.
Bush is good solid capitalist American. Obama is Socialist. C’mon.
Is it just because Obama is young, black, Democrat named Barrack Obama you just assume he is a radical no good socialist? This is supposed to be the post-racial era, but there’s no doubt The President is handicapped by his name and his color. Never hear any real factual comparisons between our non-socialist past presidents and this new President. Just a bad vibe coming from this new black guy? You know how those blacks are? Radical. Remember they used to raise their fists and say crazy shit? Obama is one of that crowd. Don’t let him fool us. Ain’t one of them black Democrats worth a can of warm spit.
When white guy from South Bill Clinton put forth his convoluted National Health Care plan it was vigorously rejected on merit, as well it should have been. But Clinton was not assailed as a Socialist or Marxist. White guys get a pass. Our first black President must be a Panther. An anti-American. It really is sad, sick, and many of you here are the wheels that keep ignorant stereotyping prejudice rolling along. No facts, not policy comparisons, just a deep deep resentment, fear, loathing that a black guy named Barrack got elected. How low can you go? Would you like to hang his ass?
It is not surprising at all so many Republicans would think Obama is Socialist when you have folks like David and the gang here continually passing off lies as truth. They talk not with numbers, not with dates, not with facts, they express themselves with spit and lies and guilt by associations.
If the new “conservative” movement is built upon a foundation of lies and racism, where exactly are you trying to lead us? When does the innuendo stop? When does the policy discussion begin.
I hope I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an “Honest Man.”
- George Washington
Is you writing aligned with the spirit of Washington’s words?
think: Nice meandering, convoluted nonsense. Oh, and nice usual ploy of using “racist” — typical.
You must have been in a cave, then, if you didn’t see how many conservatives were miffed at Bush’s outrageous spending policies.
You must have been in a cave, then, if you missed all those who referred to Bill Clinton as a socialist. Because ….
here: I noticed, ‘tho, you omit the one big difference between Bush and Obama when it comes to “socialist”: Bush did not want to nationalize healthcare — 1/6 of the entire US economy.
Look, you can rant and rave about you having “the facts” yada yada yada, but face it — both sides do PRECISELY the same things with the “facts.” It’s like the Left whining about Bush’s anti-terror measures as “trashing the Constitution” when, in FACT, what Bush did was paltry when compared to presidents past, many Democrats included.
So, spare me. Try reading this, why don’tcha.
(And I’m speaking for myself, not Anderson, Rick or whomever else.)
You must have been in a cave, then, if you didn’t see how many conservatives were miffed at Bush’s outrageous spending policies.
That repudiation didn’t start untii Repubs started polling badly in 2006… until then the Bush budgets were just fine with the right. And when the criticism started, it was pretty lame; you could tell they didn’t really mean it.
Hube, “Bush did not want to nationalize healthcare — 1/6 of the entire US economy”?
When people keep repeating stuff that’s not true, trying to pass lies off as truth – that’s just a plain old con. A Bernie Madoff say anything con job. Can you tell us what part of the current reform “nationalizes healthcare – 1/6 of the entire economy”. That’s just a political con man slogan – not a fact. If you can’t tell con artist politicians are lying to you when they say this would nationalize 1/6 of the economy – then you are just a sucker. Remember these are the same dudes that said they could cut taxes for Wall Street, let them run free, and it would be good for us. The same shitty gang of con artists are at it again trying to stop us from protecting our rights to affordable health care.
Can you tell the readers what would be nationalized? Are you saying there would be no more for-profit insurance or hospitals, the government would own everything? Language does matter. “Nationalize” means Government taking over ownership. “Subsidizing” means something different. “Regulating” means something different than that.
I’m not whining about the Bush anti-terror measures. I support them. I am not Left. I love the Drones and the Hellfires. Wish I was there to pull down the statue of Sadam, I don’t care if he had WMD or not. I agree with President Obama when he tells Al Quaeda they will not out last us, we will defeat them. I like the idea of setting up a new insurance exchange where individuals and small business can buy at group rates across state lines from a variety of insurance policies sold by private insurance companies. I like the idea of setting up new community clinics. It’s all in the reform package. Here is a link:
http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc-sen_health_care_bill.cfm
“..if you compare Bush policy with Obama policy they’re almost identical..”think?
Almost. For example, Bush never tried to nationalize 1/6th of the economy (‘healthcare’ bill).
If the new “conservative” movement is built upon a foundation of lies and racism, where exactly are you trying to lead us?…think?
Who is ‘us?’ No one is trying to ‘lead’ you anywhere. Stick with BO and the rest of the socialists.
That repudiation didn’t start untii Repubs started polling badly in 2006… until then the Bush budgets were just fine with the right. And when the criticism started, it was pretty lame; you could tell they didn’t really mean it.
Pure, “progressive” nonsense.
Truth: Who’s the sucker? Obama himself has recently said that keeping one’s own health coverage probably wasn’t going to be the case … based on what was in the bill! Are you seriously going to defend Obama’s and the Dems words and also point to a gazillion page bill that rivals the tax code for complexity as “proof?” Tax “experts” and lawyers themselves admit that the tax code can mean whatever the f*** they want it to mean ‘cuz it’s so nebulously complex.
And at the same time you excoriate conservatives for their own words and subsequent failures?
Whoa.
trying to stop us from protecting our rights to affordable health care
Can you explain to the readers just where exactly we are granted this “right?”
Hube, if you can’t understand the legislation link I gave, I don’t know what to say except laws lawyers legal language go together. It’s not that easy to understand. But I think the Senate link is pretty good.
http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc-sen_health_care_bill.cfm
You ask: Explain where we were granted this right? In my heart I think I can. You may not agree. But . .
“The basis of our political system is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government.”
That, of course, is George Washington echoing the essence of the new order in the United States of America. The right of the people to make, to alter, to decide, to change, to abolish, to create, to amend Government in the never ending pursuit of Life Happiness Liberty. The Founders gave us not a manifesto in stone, rather a flowing flexible unfulfilled journey towards liberty. Our declaration of Rights did not end in 1787 with the Constitution, they were just beginning. That is the beauty of it. Our rights have expanded greatly over the centuries. Now it’s 2010.
That’s exactly what we are working on now, more liberty. Like the Right to affordable health services without being economically enslaved, as by the leverage of the Corporate boss as ultimate provider of affordable health care. As it is work for somebody, health care is one third the cost of being self employed. There is a huge liberty issue here. We decide what our rights are in this country. Our civil rights, economic rights, free speech rights, property rights. Every generation has pushed the envelope when it comes to declaring what the Rights of the People will be.
In this current age we face a dilemma whereas something as fundamental to our safety and security as fair access to medical care, has been coveted by, and is now controlled by profiteers, to the point where many who cannot afford this tariff of excessive profit are left to fend for themselves, while others of greater means or higher connection in Government get the finest of care. Now the power of life and death is held in the hands of these profiteers – when such power belongs rightfully only in the Hand Of God. For this reason we petition the Government to grant all citizens this Right to satisfactory medical services regardless of income circumstance, status or employment. We respectfully ask the Government to change the Laws governing these matters. To ensure access to affordable medical service is granted, among the many rights afforded us within the promise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
That is what the Reform movement is about. Liberty.
When did the people ‘amend’ Article I., Section 8., of the Constitution, i.e., the ‘powers of Congress?’ They didn’t; the same type of activist judges who declared a corporation to be a person did so, along with a compliant Congress. It’s big, unconstitutional governmental expansion that is killing this country.
I get it. Teabaggers want to go back to the economic status quo before we became a world power, when we were an agrarian nation. Teabaggers are kind of like hippies that way. How quaint.
anon, American is no longer THE world power. We risk loosing status as A world power as well. What we have been doing for the last couple decades in our decadence has led to a decline of our nation. We aren’t looking to go back to an agrarian nation specificaly. It is the principles and character of our founders that we would like to return to. It is being part of a productive rather than a debt laden economy that we would like to return to. Can more agrigulture be part of that return to productivity? Certainly.
I think Timothy is saying what I’m thinking. We don’t want to return to the old policies of cut taxes and spend. That got us where we are. The experiment with ideological based fiscal policy is over. Now it’s time for practical people using math to run things. That’s why I am rooting for this new management team we elected in 2008. The President says go back to “pay as you go”, freeze non-defense non-SS Medicare spending. That’s a start. We are also in the process of putting a huge new push on to up exports. Reform of health insurance is part of the deal, but let’s not got there. USA will always be the Power. We are the world’s leading brand. Nothing will change that.
It is the principles and character of our founders that we would like to return to. It is being part of a productive rather than a debt laden economy that we would like to return to.
Groovy….
Well Think123, I agreed with at least 5 sentences of your comment and I’d say thats doing pretty good. Reality is harsher than you make it out to be. Our nation’s status is in jeopardy, and as yet the current President has not been as staunch a champion of America and our brand as we need in these times. However, the American brand will always be a good, solid leading brand, as long as people can recognize it.
Tim J, I agree about us being in jeopardy, no doubt about it. As to the President not being as staunch a champion of American, hard to figure why you say that. Maybe I spend way too much time watching C-Span, but I feel real good about this guy. He already passed through the gauntlet of fire that the Great Collapse of 2008 confronted him with. He is a calm cool presence in a nervous time. That alone is worth something.
Our economic numbers look out of whack, but we are Google Apple iPhone Intel Sun Micro Microsoft WalMart McDonalds Home Depot Starbucks the Hubble, Avatar and Levi’s. I met a guy from Japan who barely spoke english. He said his name was “Rick”. Everybody wants to be America. Obama is good for our brand. Our brand is Freedom. He fits good.
It is the principles and character of our founders that we would like to return to.
OK, here is the test for “Founding Fathers Character 101.” A score of 75% or better is required to take “Character 102.”
1. “Our lives…”
2. “…our fortunes…”
3. “…and our sacred honor.”
4. “Avoid foreign entanglements.”
If teabaggers can’t pass this test they really should go back to the drawing board.
Now it’s time for practical people using math to run things.
Think123 is like one big running self-contradiction of lies, spin, and false accusationa. But this one takes the cake.
Practical people using math to run things eh?. If the business that think123 supposedly has was “run” by the people he thinks he is describing he would have longa ago been lining up for the welfare rolls (or lined up for some of that free “stimulus” money.)
Perhaps he did run it that way — borrowing a dollar of every $2.25 he spends while his debt stands at over 3 times his entire annual budget and he projects carrying on his scam far as the eye can see.
Yes. Real practical.
Think isn’t a socialist. He’s a Marxist ideologue trying to wrap himself in the rags of the constitution he wants shredded. You almost have to wonder if he isn’t just a hybrid troll purposely made up to spew talking points and propaganda that are nonsense right on the face of them.
Pathetic but par for the quality of useful idiots the left relies on.
Anon,
I say: “Now it’s time for practical people using math to run things. That’s why I am rooting for this new management team we elected in 2008.”
You say: Lies Marxist, Idiot, Left. WTF?
Google – anger, management, delaware
Do you know about the proposal to return to “paygo”- future spending and tax cuts have to be paid for? That’s one proposal the new team is making that might help us starting digging out of the hole.
That’s one proposal the new team is making that might help us starting digging out of the hole.
Because they need to talk about a proposal to pay as they go rather than just doing it.
It is much like ‘we’re going to cut the deficit right after we get done quadrupling it’.
You may be gullible but you can’t be this naive.
Your belief that digging is the way out of a hole speaks volumes of your total lack of understanding of the problem from get-go
The new ‘team’ needs to stop digging. That’s the point.
Anon, believe me we all want a return to sanity. Any suggestions? How would you do it? You take over a company where the old boss racked up $7 trillion in debt and set up a budget spending $1 trillion more than you take in? Other than badmouthing the new boss, what would you do?
The new budget FY2011 comes in at $3.8 trillion – along with a proposed 3 year freeze on non-defense non-SS Medicare spending. Only 14% or so of the budget falls into that category. 80% of the $3.8 trillion is national security, interest on the debt, things that are hard to cut. Maybe if somebody had enough sense to provide tax revenue to pay for the trillion dollar war and the new Medicare benefits they set up we would not be in such bad shape.
That was my conservative GOP buddies I voted for who did that. They promised they would do the opposite of that. GOP Congress. GOP White House. So now we kicked them out, now we’re trying to figure out what to do. First order of business – prevent a Great Depression after they left town in the Great Collapse.
I think the new guys did maybe I hope stop the Depression.
President Obama is in the process of cutting some of the crazy extravagant ideas proposed by the previous debt addicted “conservatives” who were in charge – like putting a manned base on the Moon and sending a manned expedition to Mars. They wanted to do that while fighting a war and racking up the biggest deficits in history. Let’s go to Mars! Put a base on the Moon! That’s the act big bad Obama is following.
The deficit will be over $1 trillion. Where would you cut? Do you think it’s good to cancel the Moon mission, not go to Mars?
What I don’t understand is why are we increasing NASA’s budget a billion a year when we are canceling the mission. I want to see a new mission to justify the expenditures or I question why we canceled the mission. That is a typical move by this regime. It refuses to make a decision. Make a sensible one on either side and I will support it.
We don’t have the money. We don’t need to spend it on the moon. It is like buying a new sports boat when you are just about bankrupt. It may not be the time.
Obama is good for our brand.…think?
No, he’s good for your brand- Socialist.
The big players on the international scene (Russia, China, Iran) look at him as a naive pantywaist, with no foreign policy experience- which he is.
“Hope and Change…I Plan to Transform America” (in my own Socialist image)..BO
David if you google the NASA budget requests, see what was cut, you will start to understand. The President said he’s looking to the private sector to ramp up transporting people to the Space Station. We are working on a new generation of launch vehicles to replace Shuttle. It’s all out there. Thinking is, we can use the Man On The Moon and Mars money better elsewhere.
By the way my wife just got an email from a distant business connection with a mass email copy all about how the President is trashing Social Security. She wrote back saying she did not agree. We then got an email with a picture of Obama his feet on the White House desk captioned “tell the nigger to keep his feet of our desk”. I said don’t write back she’s a sicko. She wrote back anyway enclosing a picture of GWB with his feet up and saying the nigger email was disgusting. The last reply we got was “tell me good thing the monkey in the White House has done. He is destroying this country.”
I’m telling you David, there is a sickness in the land that needs to be cured. If good people do not speak out, stand up against political extremism in our debate, in our language, we will live to regret it. This whole thing is way out of hand.
Do you really think that some one who thinks President Obama is the N__r monkey in the whitehouse will listen to whatever I say? For the record, I continue to dismiss such incivility and extremism. That is why I refer to him as President Obama not Obama except after establishing the respect in the first mention.
The man did in fact inherit a mess. He is doing the best he knows how. He does care about making America better. I will agree with you that there is a poison in our political discourse. You see it with Bush burned in effigy and Palin images lynched for Halloween. You see it with the vicious wishing for the assasination of President Obama and the ugly racist attacks. Whether it is left or right, I reject it.
That said, I do not believe calling people out for their political philosophy and governance is illegitimate. I think it furthers our ability to deal with the important issues. We have to strip away the spin and get to the heart of the issue. That is what we do here. Sometimes we are right and sometimes we are wrong, but we always have an honest point.
David, just remember when you begin the post calling this a cross dressing regime filled with Marxists and Maoist that is against Americanism, then you do not speak up against extremism like ‘communist bastards’ – saying monkey nigger is not far behind. Stand up and be counted against this extremism.
He does care about making America better.
Right- with the considered guidance of his associates; a former domestic terrorist (Ayres), a lunatic preacher (Wright) and a supporter of Mao (Dunn). He probably has Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals memorized.
BO is a political radical; this is why he won’t release his college writings. This is also why he won’t give-up on socialized medicine; it’s not about healthcare, it’s about power- virtually any human activity can be associated, and thus, regulated, under the guise of ‘healthcare.’ What type of car you drive, what and where you eat, where you work and how you get there, the size of your family, ..everything.
Just like the good ‘ol USSR. BO might as well be Yuri Andropov.
I stand by my statement. The people in question are self proclaimedad
Admirers of Mao and Marx while I despise both of them. Are you
you shocked that I would be unhappy?